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    Re: Beginings of a new morph.

    Quote Originally Posted by docturgonzo View Post
    We all make mistakes and everyone on here is here to learn.
    Your are certainly entitled to your take on the situation, but showing such a blasé attitude about the theft of copyrighted material after it was pointed out as a serious issue goes beyond making a simple mistake and leaning from it.
    Last edited by Slim; 05-15-2012 at 04:32 PM.
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    Ya people make mistakes. That though was not a mistake. It was intentional to take another's pictures altered them and placed them on to his website. In my personal opinion that person immediately goes on my do not buy from list. Why? Well because they obviously has little regard for another's years of work.
    I've seen alot of sites pop up That feature others productions on them so that when the sites are visited they look like they are bigger than they really are. To me it just looks like someone trying to make quick sales.
    Whether that was hccs intent. I don't know. Nor am I saying it was. But I've seen it all before. I have a website of my own and I know I pride myself on being a hobbiest breeder that enjoys sharing my animals with the world. But every picture on my site is work of my own and animals I have in my collection. There's one picture actually I have permission to use. But that baby was produced from the parents That I produced. Either way credit is given to the owner.
    Also hcc probably wasnt looking for all the drama. But when you post on a public forum you open yourself and your business to anything. I myself know. I've had to publicly apologize for a comment here or there and tucked my tail bc I was in the wrong. It something all humans have to do at some point let a little humility in. But agian when you participate in a forum if things are on the up and up you don't have to worry About things like that. Just some .02c


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    I've been following this thread since page 1, and here's my reaction...



    Anyways, I've just added another person to my "do not buy from" list. Anyone who intentionally steals pictures and removes a watermark is bad juju. I hope he takes the advice and takes his bruises elsewhere. Thanks to Slim for uncovering that. The only thing nowadays that other people can't take away from you is your own integrity, and in my opinion, this guy has none.

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    This thread is...
    Lord, this threat is amazing. It's like a Train Wreck! I can't stay away.

    That being said, the picture used on this page: http://www.hccmorphs.com/about-bps.html is also stolen without credit. It is a photograph by Natural History Photographer John Murphy [website here: http://www.jcmnaturalhistory.com/about.html], though that particular photograph is not on his website anymore. It is a print of his, one that you must buy from John Murphy if you want it for yourself.

    Just...shaking my head at this whole nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heylookitsjon View Post
    that particular photograph is not on his website anymore. It is a print of his, one that you must buy from John Murphy if you want it for yourself.
    How hard is it to use photos of your own animals? How ashamed of your animals do you have to be to not WANT to show them off?!

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    Re: Beginings of a new morph.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    How hard is it to use photos of your own animals? How ashamed of your animals do you have to be to not WANT to show them off?!
    Well...it actually does take a little effort to get good at taking pics, learning what backgrounds work, how to crop them and stuff like that. And well...a little effort is just too much to ask for a lot of folks now-a-days...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sho220 View Post
    Well...it actually does take a little effort to get good at taking pics, learning what backgrounds work, how to crop them and stuff like that. And well...a little effort is just too much to ask for a lot of folks now-a-days...
    Now that you mention it, that does sound awfully time consuming. Hey why go through all that trouble when great looking snakes are just a click away.....lol smh
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    Okay so...honest question. If I wanted to build a site for my business and wanted to add an educational section (where it would be CLEARLY labeled as such and not be misleading that they might be my available bps), how would one go about using online material such as pictures to say, "hey check out this fantastic morph by NERD!"? Would a simple credit beneath the photo suffice?

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    The worst part is he is charging $350 for that "morph". Tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that was an epic fail.

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    Re: Beginings of a new morph.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckels View Post
    Thanks to Slim for uncovering that.
    In all honesty, it was our very own super sleuth Shadera who found his website with all the copyrighted material on it.

    But, if HCC is still reading this thread, I want him to continue to focus his lawsuit on me, not Shadera.

    Don’t forget, I'm the one who has defamed your character and has cost you money, so stay focused! Eyes on the prize…every red cent I own, remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by moonlightgdess View Post
    Okay so...honest question. If I wanted to build a site for my business and wanted to add an educational section (where it would be CLEARLY labeled as such and not be misleading that they might be my available bps), how would one go about using online material such as pictures to say, "hey check out this fantastic morph by NERD!"? Would a simple credit beneath the photo suffice?
    No it would not. In NERD's case, his website clearly states that all his images are copyrighted to NERD, and you would need actual permission from NERD to use his images in anyway. I can only assume others protect their images in a similar fashion.

    Having said that, you might be able to hot link to the images on his site without doing anything wrong. I'm not 100% sure about that.
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