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    Hog Island morphs?

    Are there any breeders out there working with hog island morps? I love the look of albino boas, but im pretty sure i want to get a female hog island boa as my first boa. (planning on getting a boa within the next few months if everything works out). If theres no such thing as an albino hog then would getting an albino male bci be the same? (as far as size wise i mean?) Like ive heard female hogs get to 4'-6'. And male bci's are like 5'-7'. Seems about the same size to me, but i want others opinions!
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    Most Hog breeders try to keep them locality pure which means no morphs unless they occurr naturally within the locality. So far, I'm not aware of any morphs turning up in Hogs. If you find an albino Hog, then it's almost certainly a cross and not pure Hog.

    Generally, a male BCI will be about the same size as a pure Hog Island. Especially if you just raise it up as a pet. If you keep him on rats, he's not likely to exceed 5-7ft. That's not a garuantee and larger males are known, but some Hogs have been known to get big too so you'd probably be running the same risk either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Generally, a male BCI will be about the same size as a pure Hog Island. Especially if you just raise it up as a pet. If you keep him on rats, he's not likely to exceed 5-7ft.
    Ok i see. You mean a male bci will stay about the same as a female hog right?
    What do you mean exactly raise him as a pet? He will be a pet. I dont plan on breeding boas, i wanna breed bps. But im ready for a bigger snake as a pet and am pretty set on a boa. To my knowledge i thought that if you wanted the boa to stay smaller and grow gradually you feed it once ever two weeks. Is this correct or no?

    I really like the idea of a male albino bci, but am also considering a female hog or female dum still too. Its gunna be a hard desicion! I guess i still have time though bc i still need to get the cage and tstat first haha.
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    I think Kali means that if you're not power feeding it to get it large it should stay a reasonable size.

    The only Hog Island morph really is hypo, but they naturally occur this way. You can find some very clean hypo looking ones though. There are other bci that stay around 5 ft as well. My sonorans are under 5 ft. Some morphs, such as leopard, albinism, anery, and hypo do occur in other bci.
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    Re: Hog Island morphs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    To my knowledge i thought that if you wanted the boa to stay smaller and grow gradually you feed it once ever two weeks. Is this correct or no?
    For babies the norm is still a 7 day feeding schedule, and I don't believe that is underfeeding or overfeeding. Feeding every 2 weeks won't guarantee that the boa will stay smaller in the long run, so it's best to feed on an appropriate schedule for the boa's entire life.

    For me, that is every 7 days for babies and subadults, 10 days when they're on small/medium rats, then I'll wait to feed them longer once they get on large rats (I've heard 3-4 weeks is a pretty common schedule for adult boas on appropriate sized feeders). That's just my personal feeding routine for my boas.
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    Daybreaker's feeding schedule is correct, especially for babies. I would feed an adult every 14-20 days.

    And Chris was pretty much right about what I meant.

    To clarify, some breeders raising a boa for breeding purposes will eventually put them on rabbits when they are large enough to take them. Rabbits can trigger another growth spurt. But if you are just going to keep your boa as a pet and not breed it, if you keep it on rats all its life, it should stay a more managable size. Ok?

    Hope that helps! Sorry if I confused you - I was tired when I posted that....
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    There's also Nicaraguan boas; they stay a fairly small size, usually maxing out at around 5 ft. You can also get some nic morphs like salmons or super salmons. They're nice boas and a very manageable size too. You get the boa constrictor but just in a smaller/apartment size package ;-)

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    Re: Hog Island morphs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daybreaker View Post
    For babies the norm is still a 7 day feeding schedule, and I don't believe that is underfeeding or overfeeding. Feeding every 2 weeks won't guarantee that the boa will stay smaller in the long run, so it's best to feed on an appropriate schedule for the boa's entire life.

    For me, that is every 7 days for babies and subadults, 10 days when they're on small/medium rats, then I'll wait to feed them longer once they get on large rats (I've heard 3-4 weeks is a pretty common schedule for adult boas on appropriate sized feeders). That's just my personal feeding routine for my boas.
    Oh ok i gotcha. The 2 weeks thing was probably what i was thinking for adults then. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Daybreaker's feeding schedule is correct, especially for babies. I would feed an adult every 14-20 days.

    And Chris was pretty much right about what I meant.

    To clarify, some breeders raising a boa for breeding purposes will eventually put them on rabbits when they are large enough to take them. Rabbits can trigger another growth spurt. But if you are just going to keep your boa as a pet and not breed it, if you keep it on rats all its life, it should stay a more managable size. Ok?

    Hope that helps! Sorry if I confused you - I was tired when I posted that....
    It doesnt take much to confuse me lol... But yea i gotcha, i just want him as a pet because ive had balls for awhile now and am ready for a bigger snake. Hopefully by the end of the summer i can get one!

    Quote Originally Posted by Becs080 View Post
    There's also Nicaraguan boas; they stay a fairly small size, usually maxing out at around 5 ft. You can also get some nic morphs like salmons or super salmons. They're nice boas and a very manageable size too. You get the boa constrictor but just in a smaller/apartment size package ;-)
    Ya theyre pretty cool too. I pretty much have my heart set on a sunglow male bci now though


    Thanks for the help guys!!!

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    Funny, I saw your thread and was going to tell you to check out a sunglow bci. They are gorgeous! Congrats on your future boa, they are awesome!

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