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    Re: Het Ghost help!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by yardy View Post
    Orange ghost does leak through in some hets; my breeder female het OG is an example of this. She is very light, has hints of orange and shows more grey than brown-she looks better than some adult ghosts that I have seen. Her male het partner (also proven breeder) is very dark and you would never guess that he is carrying a ghost gene. The bottom line is that you can pick out some of the hets but certainly not all of them and appearance is no guarantee.
    I am not saying this isn't true, but I will say that if it is, Orange Ghost cannot be a recessive trait. Recessive by definition means that it will not show up in its het form. Codom traits show up because they are codominant. The homozygous form is the super form (super-pastel etc.)

    If your snake is not wild-type I have to assume it's an orange ghost, not a het orange ghost.

    If I'm wrong someone please educate me because I would love to learn something new. The writing on the subject doesn't leave much breathing room though.

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    Re: Het Ghost help!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by sharkrocket View Post
    I am not saying this isn't true, but I will say that if it is, Orange Ghost cannot be a recessive trait. Recessive by definition means that it will not show up in its het form.
    Some Hets will have a "marker" IF you know what to look for.

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    Re: Het Ghost help!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by sharkrocket View Post
    I am not saying this isn't true, but I will say that if it is, Orange Ghost cannot be a recessive trait. Recessive by definition means that it will not show up in its het form. Codom traits show up because they are codominant. The homozygous form is the super form (super-pastel etc.)

    If your snake is not wild-type I have to assume it's an orange ghost, not a het orange ghost.

    If I'm wrong someone please educate me because I would love to learn something new. The writing on the subject doesn't leave much breathing room though.
    While some people say that some hets have markers, it isn't 100% true all the time. Therefor they're still recessive. I was simply inquiring if anyone has heard about markers for het ghosts as I have no experience with ghosts.

    There is a video on youtube here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUGDB...feature=relmfu
    Kevin from NERD talkes about the het pied mixed with other morphs and how he can see differences in the babies that are het pied.

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    Re: Het Ghost help!?!?

    Ball pythons don't seem to read the books where we made up the cut and dry line between recessive and co-dominant (or incomplete dominant some say). In my experience both pied and hypo are "recessive with co-dominant tendencies". I've proven 3 possible het pieds (two of them only 25%) and two possible het hypos all picked on pretty clear markers. I'm not saying its 100% but it can be very useful when picking from a clutch of possible hets. I'll try to get a picture of my het hypo female in glow today as she is always light but in pre-lay glow she looks like a ghost. Some het hypo's even shed clear like homozygous hypos.

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    Re: Het Ghost help!?!?

    She's past the most extreme stage of building glow but you can get the idea that this particular het ghost has some ghost like qualities.


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    That's a might nice het u have there. I picked her up the other day and she has way more flames and blushing than any of my normals. May not mean anything but she's cool none the less. Her head is like way faded towards the back too. When I get my light tent setup I will post better pics.

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