very dissapointed

[slithering house]

i will try to make it bigger on the camera then try to re paste it

[angllady2]

The thing of it is, I don't care how long you have been doing ball pythons, not every person is going to be able to identify every snake.

Otherwise, why would we have breeders posting pictures of their hatchlings and asking, "What on earth is this? I know what it should be, but it doesn't look like it's supposed to."

I would much rather hang onto a potential double morph and give it time to grow up and get better looking, than to sell it cheap because someone had a doubt and beat my head against a wall for it later.

Sometimes people make no sense anyway. Last season I had a clutch of Vanillas. Out of a clutch of 5 - two Vanilla boys, two normal boys and a girl. Now these snakes had been specifically bred to each other in hopes of improving the offspring, and it did. I took them to a show, and sold both vanillas in no time flat. Then a couple of guys come over and look at my normal female. I was asking $25 for her. They told me the snake was not a normal, and I should be asking more for it. I assured them it was a normal, and was priced correctly. They told me they wanted to buy it, but that is was not a normal and I wasn't charging enough. I told them again, yes it was a normal. The mom was extra light, the dad bright and clean, and this baby was simply proof of selective breeding. They continued to argue with me it was not a normal and I was not asking enough for it.

Now think that over for a minute. If you spotted a baby you were certain was a morph labeled as a normal and carrying a normal price tag, would you argue with the seller they had mislabeled it ? Questioning is one thing. "Wow, that looks just like a [blank] to me, are you sure it's a normal?" But would you argue for 20 minutes that the breeder did not know what they were selling, and even more, would you refuse to pay the asking price for a snake because you thought it should be higher ? Most people wouldn't go through that much trouble, but they did. I eventually got so tired of it, I told them "Buy her for $25 or move on."

So if I were you, I would simply hold on to that baby, it will only get more valuable as it grows, regardless of if it is a single morph or double.

Gale

[Mike41793]

Sometimes people make no sense anyway. Last season I had a clutch of Vanillas. Out of a clutch of 5 - two Vanilla boys, two normal boys and a girl. Now these snakes had been specifically bred to each other in hopes of improving the offspring, and it did. I took them to a show, and sold both vanillas in no time flat. Then a couple of guys come over and look at my normal female. I was asking $25 for her. They told me the snake was not a normal, and I should be asking more for it. I assured them it was a normal, and was priced correctly. They told me they wanted to buy it, but that is was not a normal and I wasn't charging enough. I told them again, yes it was a normal. The mom was extra light, the dad bright and clean, and this baby was simply proof of selective breeding. They continued to argue with me it was not a normal and I was not asking enough for it.

Now think that over for a minute. If you spotted a baby you were certain was a morph labeled as a normal and carrying a normal price tag, would you argue with the seller they had mislabeled it ? Questioning is one thing. "Wow, that looks just like a [blank] to me, are you sure it's a normal?" But would you argue for 20 minutes that the breeder did not know what they were selling, and even more, would you refuse to pay the asking price for a snake because you thought it should be higher ? Most people wouldn't go through that much trouble, but they did. I eventually got so tired of it, I told them "Buy her for $25 or move on."

So if I were you, I would simply hold on to that baby, it will only get more valuable as it grows, regardless of if it is a single morph or double.

Gale

This made me LOL! If he honestly thought is was a morph then why wouldnt he buy it lmao? oh man, some people...

[Royal Hijinx]

To help, we need real pictures. A good pattern shot, a good head shot and heck even a belly shot.

Those are pretty much the standard views for trying to ID a morph.

Or post the pics that you sent to the breeders to look at.

[KatStoverReptiles]

The thing of it is, I don't care how long you have been doing ball pythons, not every person is going to be able to identify every snake.

Otherwise, why would we have breeders posting pictures of their hatchlings and asking, "What on earth is this? I know what it should be, but it doesn't look like it's supposed to."

I would much rather hang onto a potential double morph and give it time to grow up and get better looking, than to sell it cheap because someone had a doubt and beat my head against a wall for it later.

Sometimes people make no sense anyway. Last season I had a clutch of Vanillas. Out of a clutch of 5 - two Vanilla boys, two normal boys and a girl. Now these snakes had been specifically bred to each other in hopes of improving the offspring, and it did. I took them to a show, and sold both vanillas in no time flat. Then a couple of guys come over and look at my normal female. I was asking $25 for her. They told me the snake was not a normal, and I should be asking more for it. I assured them it was a normal, and was priced correctly. They told me they wanted to buy it, but that is was not a normal and I wasn't charging enough. I told them again, yes it was a normal. The mom was extra light, the dad bright and clean, and this baby was simply proof of selective breeding. They continued to argue with me it was not a normal and I was not asking enough for it.

Now think that over for a minute. If you spotted a baby you were certain was a morph labeled as a normal and carrying a normal price tag, would you argue with the seller they had mislabeled it ? Questioning is one thing. "Wow, that looks just like a [blank] to me, are you sure it's a normal?" But would you argue for 20 minutes that the breeder did not know what they were selling, and even more, would you refuse to pay the asking price for a snake because you thought it should be higher ? Most people wouldn't go through that much trouble, but they did. I eventually got so tired of it, I told them "Buy her for $25 or move on."

So if I were you, I would simply hold on to that baby, it will only get more valuable as it grows, regardless of if it is a single morph or double.

Gale

I would've asked them, "How much do you think I should charge for it?" and then wrote their reply on the sale tag and said, "There...now pay me!!"

[dr del]

Hi,

Here are your pics;





Can you get us a picture of the top of its head? And a close up on the side pattern?

I'm far from good at picking out enchis but that does look like an enchi pastel to me.


dr del

[Mike41793]

That looks enchi to me to but im not an expert. If you werent giving the "experts" the best pics to look at then their guesses probably werent totally accurate.

[Annarose15]

When in doubt, KEEP HER! How can you go wrong?

[Freakie_frog]

Not a Pastel enchi.. sorry.. color, pattern, head all that is wrong for a pastel enchi.

[Cameron Lamb Exotics]

Cant blame people for being cautious.