Getting over aversion to water

[MrLang]

In the event that you do need to give baths, I find that placing a towel or something to give 'traction' seems to calm them down a lot.

I agree that you should drop the cash on a can of PAM and save yourself the headache and save your pet the misery.

[Brokenangelr]

I feel I need to clarify for those who have not read my other thread. He gave me a medical solution to clean my tank with every 10 days. I meant to put the name of it in the thread yesterday but was very late getting out of school last night and came home, gave Kiva her bath (which she really didnt like) and went to bed. The bathing is with dawn 3 times a week and with regular water the 2 days in between. I really dont want to do that to her every day for the next 30 days (at the least). I dont want to completely disregard the instructions that he gave me but i do think it is a little extreme. I did break down the tank tuesday night when i got home from the vet and it was washed with the medical solution. The solution is added 2ccs per liter of water, into a sprayer. The tank only has paper towels down for bedding, a cereal bowl with water in it, and 2 cardboard hides that i made from boxes laying around the house. The only thing in her tank that is familiar for her is the acurite meter and she has been found wrapped around it (it is near the top of the tank) for the last few days when my fiancee vets home from work around 1 pm. All her other furniture has to go through the dishwasher on a sanitizing rinse and is in trashbags in my laundry room right now. I know she is not happy and has to be really uncomfortable (she had mites crawling out of her vent for goddess sake). There has to be a way to do this without water torture. Thats what i feel like im doing to her as of last night with the reaction she had to the water.
I will be looking into the PAM and reptirelief when i get home today. My fiancee wont be happy with me ignoring the vets advice but i dont want Kiva to hate me.

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[Homegrownscales]

First do you know the temp of the water? Normally when it's too hot or too cold they don't enjoy it much. A good water temp is 85-88.f for a bath. Secondly I do think the vet is going a bit extreme. And I'll agree with what other have said with the pam. Grab yourself a can. Maybe do a couple baths and save yourself a Ton of trouble.


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[mattchibi]

Tell him to read the replies you are getting here. Most of the people who posted have first-hand experience with mites. There have been countless times where I have seen members post about their snake colonies or a few of their snakes getting infested with mites, some cases were really bad too, and all of them were solved quite painlessly with PAM.

Trust me, Kiva will hate you if you bathe her 5 days a week to no avail, but she will love you forever and ever if you get some Provent a Mite as soon as you can. I even keep a can just for emergencies. A word of caution, PAM is really strong so make sure you follow the directions and dont hesitate to ask questions when you get it in the mail.

[DooLittle]

I feel I need to clarify for those who have not read my other thread. He gave me a medical solution to clean my tank with every 10 days. I meant to put the name of it in the thread yesterday but was very late getting out of school last night and came home, gave Kiva her bath (which she really didnt like) and went to bed. The bathing is with dawn 3 times a week and with regular water the 2 days in between. I really dont want to do that to her every day for the next 30 days (at the least). I dont want to completely disregard the instructions that he gave me but i do think it is a little extreme. I did break down the tank tuesday night when i got home from the vet and it was washed with the medical solution. The solution is added 2ccs per liter of water, into a sprayer. The tank only has paper towels down for bedding, a cereal bowl with water in it, and 2 cardboard hides that i made from boxes laying around the house. The only thing in her tank that is familiar for her is the acurite meter and she has been found wrapped around it (it is near the top of the tank) for the last few days when my fiancee vets home from work around 1 pm. All her other furniture has to go through the dishwasher on a sanitizing rinse and is in trashbags in my laundry room right now. I know she is not happy and has to be really uncomfortable (she had mites crawling out of her vent for goddess sake). There has to be a way to do this without water torture. Thats what i feel like im doing to her as of last night with the reaction she had to the water.
I will be looking into the PAM and reptirelief when i get home today. My fiancee wont be happy with me ignoring the vets advice but i dont want Kiva to hate me.

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The thing of it is about ignoring the vet, is it doesn't sound like this is reptile vet, or one who specializes in herps and snakes. You would get much different advice from one who does. Sometimes you have to be the judge of what is right for your animal.

[Brokenangelr]

The funny thing is, he was one of the reptile vets at a local exotic vet. I am going to pick up some pam. I may see if there is anywhere local to me that sells it. I do want to stick with the tank cleaning that was suggested. I will post the name of the medical solution when i get home. But she is not getting those baths. The one last night was torture for me to watch my baby flailing around like she was dying. I cant imagine how it is for her.

In conclusion, I am picking up some PAM, ending the daily bath, and will probably continue the tank cleaning as suggested unless there is a better way. Def posting the med when i get home.

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[Domepiece]

There is a very simple solution to this like everyone has pointed out. Clean out the cage with soap and water, put in bedding, spray with P-A-M, put snake in, mites gone, reapply to bedding a couple weeks later if it makes you feel better. One treatment and mites gone, pretty simple. Make sure you follow the directions on the PAM and I would only recommend one soak to kill the live mites that are currently on your snake. PAM will take care of the ones that hatch later. Goodluck. Also your vet gave you horrible advice even though it seems to be well intended.

[Brokenangelr]

Yea. She's my first little one (first of many once the living arrangement allows for more) and i want her to be happy. Last night, she was not. I will not be buying from an expo again if i can help it.
I am always cruising the forums here and recognize the experience and suggestions that everyone who posts here has. If i didnt, i would be dunking my baby everyday and not asking for advice.

Thanks so much to everyone for the advice and friendly atmosphere.
Going to buy some PAM when im not bus surfing (aka standing on a commuter bus)

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[Maixx]

What is the medical solution that he prescribed?
I know of a couple vets that are trying to get people to stop using Pam, it contain Pyrethrins, a neuro toxin that if used wrong is very toxic.
My vet recommend using a fipronil spray and treating the enclosure in the same way one would use Pam.
But my vet never recommended soaking like, and like everyone above said, that much soaking is bad news.

[Brokenangelr]

Just got home. The medicine is called Eprexin. Going online and ordering some pam and shipping it next day if possible

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