What are these???

[Papo]

Please help with identifying these snakes:






Thanks,
Papo

[Daybreaker]

What were each bought as?

[Mike41793]

looks like 2 normals to me. the second lighter one sorta looks fireish but i doubt it...

[Papo]

What were each bought as?

Both sold as fires, but the lighter one looks Vanilla-ish.

[The Serpent Merchant]

Their patterns are pretty busy for fires, but they do have some of the fire markings.

[Papo]

Here are more pics of the male:





Thanks,
Papo

[Mike41793]

Both sold as fires, but the lighter one looks Vanilla-ish.

The second one looks like a fire to me but the only thing that looks fireish about the first is the head. The first one really looks like a normal to me...
Who did you buy them from?

[Papo]

The second one looks like a fire to me but the only thing that looks fireish about the first is the head. The first one really looks like a normal to me...
Who did you buy them from?

Local snake breeder here in Miami.

[Daybreaker]

I was going to say the second looks Fire/Vanilla ish as well, but the first seems very bright and golden (but with the right wonky head marking). Maybe someone can post pics of lower-grade Vanillas to compare to your male?

[Domepiece]

If they were both sold to you as fires I would say it is totally plausible that they are fires. Fires can have large variances just like any other gene.