ok I'll just stick with colubrids then. Thanks guys for the help. lol my dream of owning a BP were just crushed I would feel like a POS if something were to happen to my ball. How else would you heat a tub along with a UTH. I live in california we don't have central air in the house just room air conditioners. I would imagine that the room I would be keeping it in would probably be about 70 all day and night. I have a hallway that would be a little warmer by about 5 degrees.