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    Re: Help! My ball wants to eat me! D:

    For every person here who has said to feed a snake in its enclosure, I can get a credible source that strongly advises the exact opposite.
    Could you provide a few sources for me? I would like to read their information and the basis for their recommendations.

    Would be greatly appreciated.

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    For the thermostat, the probe goes on the outside of the enclosure between the tank and uth. So it won't malfunction due to water or in tank factors.

    Thermometer probes and wires are not a problem in tank either. You can hot glue the wires down(but not the probe itself) if you're worried.

    There is as much risk to feeding frozen/thawed as live. Just different risks. Both have to be done responsibly. When feeding live, the best you can do is feed smaller and more frequent than large and less often. Crawler/small rats are harmless. It's the adults that are potentially dangerous. Also be vigilant and watchfull during feedings in case something view wrong.
    I can list a few things about frozen and live that can go good or bad, but I'm not trying to convince you to change feeding methods. If feeding frozen works for you, great! But I just wanted to point out, that there is a risk with frozen too.

    A small pond is safe and ok to do. I know some members have one in their tanks for their snakes.

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    Re: Help! My ball wants to eat me! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dember View Post
    For every person here who has said to feed a snake in its enclosure, I can get a credible source that strongly advises the exact opposite.
    Please tell us who this credible source is! And have them come explain this to a rather large group of people that have years and some decades of experience and knowledge.

    It's really no different than "you should feed live food because I do/because so-and-so does, and I/they have done it for years with no problems." As has just been said on this thread, "just because it has not happened YET does not mean that it won't."
    There are also risks involved with feeding f/t. And don't say you can control the risk of it, because you can also control the risks involved with feeding live!

    When it comes to my animals' health and safety, I am not a risk taker. I am not a gambler, they mean far too much to me to do something that has a chance of hurting them.
    There is always a risk involved with everything we do. No matter what choice you make in caring for your animals there are risks involved!
    Thus far, I have to choose a "risk"; should I worry more about my snake bumping her nose from striking at the glass, or should I risk making her much worse and even risk her life by offering her food in her enclosure?
    As everyone else has suggested she is striking at the glass and at you because she is stressed! It has nothing to do with feeding.

    It seems that I run a risk of being bitten either way, so that's no longer really my concern -- even if I do, like I said, I've definitely had worse. Sure, I'd like that to go away so I don't have a snake who treats my hand like a freshly thawed rodent several times a day, but I can deal with that over running the risk of something that could be harmful to her.
    You know if she bites you she might hurt herself! That is another risk you are taking with your animal. O, and I would rather have anyone of my snakes bite me instead of slamming their faces against a glass "fish" tank!

    I honestly do appreciate all of the input, or I wouldn't still be here. I'm not trying to be argumentative, and I'm sorry if anything I have said has been interpreted that way.
    I'm simply discussing and weighing the options.
    You aren't exactly coming across like you are just discussing, you are coming across as if you know everything there is to know about this hobby and a snake you have had for a very short period of time!
    Honestly if you are so worried about the risks involved with keeping a pet maybe you shouldn't keep one at all. Not a single bit of advise that has been given to you in this post is going to put your snake at more risk than it already is. It will actually put your snake at less risk!

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    I don't understand why you came here for advice on this issue and then aren't accepting the advice given to you by every single member of this forum.

    What's the point? You're wasting our time and yours. We're not saying these things just to say them. We're saying them because it's true to our experiences and those of other reputable snake owners.
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    **I should clarify that you don't have to accept every piece of advice given to you. But the fact that you've responded to almost every one of us with mistrust, if not outright hostility in saying that we're "wrong" in the advice and you've heard differently and you must do what's right for your animals--suggesting that we aren't ...

    It's just ... what's the point? Everyone has different opinions, yes, and everyone has different things that work for them based on their situations, but certain things cannot be labeled as "opinion". It's like coming to us and asking us, "why does an apple fall from a tree?", and then when we tell you that it's gravity, dismissing it as "wrong" or untrue because you heard so-and-so say they had an apple fall up or something.
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    I understand that it's hard to stop following the methods that you're used to. Clearly, it has been working for you. However, the members here are highly experienced and have provided a lot of good advice that will benefit your snakes. In the end it's your choice to take it or leave it. They are your snakes after all. But I guarantee that the advice given here has prevented the injury and/or death of many other snakes.


    Anyway, back to your girl. I've personally handled the snake before. She's really sweet. I've plucked her out of her old tank no problem and never experienced 'cage aggression' from her in the past. Like I originally stated, she's most likely stressed and needs time to settle down. I know it's hard not to handle her, but can you try leaving her alone for a week and see what happens then?

    And I don't know if you have already answered or addressed this, but what size tank is she in? Perhaps it's too big for her? I know you said she has 2 hides and lots of greenery, but is it possible that she still feels too 'open'? Tighter spaces may help her settle and become less aggressive. You can put rolled up wads of paper towel or news paper into her tank. Even covering her cage w/ a sheet may help. And is she housed separately from your male?

    I wish you luck.
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    Re: Help! My ball wants to eat me! D:

    Quote Originally Posted by k8nkane View Post
    **I should clarify that you don't have to accept every piece of advice given to you. But the fact that you've responded to almost every one of us with mistrust, if not outright hostility in saying that we're "wrong" in the advice and you've heard differently and you must do what's right for your animals--suggesting that we aren't ...

    It's just ... what's the point? Everyone has different opinions, yes, and everyone has different things that work for them based on their situations, but certain things cannot be labeled as "opinion". It's like coming to us and asking us, "why does an apple fall from a tree?", and then when we tell you that it's gravity, dismissing it as "wrong" or untrue because you heard so-and-so say they had an apple fall up or something.
    Great advise!!!

    I have found a ton of useful information here its awesomenessss at its finest.

    One thing nobody has brought up, maybe out of respect is maybe she doesn't like this guy!!!

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    What size aquarium?
    I see you talking about pools and water falls, with fake plants ect...

    I find it odd, it sounds like she's not using her hides, bp's are known to spend majority of their time in their hides. Do you know the temps -inside- each hide?

    back when I used overhead heat (lights) I had a hot side temp of 92. After I purchased a temp gun I found that inside the hot side hide it was over 100.
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