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    Re: Poss Het Question

    Quote Originally Posted by gr8gugly View Post
    Well I picked up a pair of supposed 100% HET albino. Around 1000g each. I picked them up for a slightly high price for normals but a steal if they are 100% HET. May be two years before I can try to prove though. I was told the paperwork would be emailed to me, but at this point i just thought it wasnt very useful. The guy was getting rid of all of his stock so if I find out in a few years that they arent well then there isnt really anything I could do anyways. I just didnt know what the paperwork was supposed to look like.
    Here are the odds:

    99% probability of getting at least one albino in the first 7 babies if one of these is bred to an albino. This could require one or two clutches of eggs.

    99% probability of getting at least one albino in the first 17 babies if one of these is bred to a known het albino or if these two are bred together. This may take three clutches of eggs.

    If a possible het albino produces an albino baby in one of the above tests, then you are certain that the possible het is a het.

    If a possible het albino goes through one of the above tests without producing an albino baby, then the odds are 99% that the possible het is a normal. There is no way to be 100% certain that it is a normal. But if I resold it, I would sell it as a normal.

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    Re: Poss Het Question

    Quote Originally Posted by paulh View Post
    Here are the odds:

    99% probability of getting at least one albino in the first 7 babies if one of these is bred to an albino. This could require one or two clutches of eggs.

    99% probability of getting at least one albino in the first 17 babies if one of these is bred to a known het albino or if these two are bred together. This may take three clutches of eggs.

    If a possible het albino produces an albino baby in one of the above tests, then you are certain that the possible het is a het.

    If a possible het albino goes through one of the above tests without producing an albino baby, then the odds are 99% that the possible het is a normal. There is no way to be 100% certain that it is a normal. But if I resold it, I would sell it as a normal.
    This doesn't even make sense. If he breeds his Het x Het...There is a 25% chance of getting a visual morph. No 99% anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulh View Post
    Here are the odds:

    99% probability of getting at least one albino in the first 7 babies if one of these is bred to an albino. This could require one or two clutches of eggs.

    99% probability of getting at least one albino in the first 17 babies if one of these is bred to a known het albino or if these two are bred together. This may take three clutches of eggs.

    If a possible het albino produces an albino baby in one of the above tests, then you are certain that the possible het is a het.

    If a possible het albino goes through one of the above tests without producing an albino baby, then the odds are 99% that the possible het is a normal. There is no way to be 100% certain that it is a normal. But if I resold it, I would sell it as a normal.
    Where did you come up with those numbers...? They all sound wrong to me but please prove me otherwise.
    The percentages are per egg. Not per clutch.
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    I get what he is trying to say....If you had a poss. het albino female and bred it to an albino male (or a het albino male) there is a certain point where you should hit the odds. If not, you probably have a normal.

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    Re: Poss Het Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Green View Post
    I get what he is trying to say....If you had a poss. het albino female and bred it to an albino male (or a het albino male) there is a certain point where you should hit the odds. If not, you probably have a normal.
    (looked for an "I agree", this was closet)

    It is somewhat like flipping a coin. Every individual flip has a 50% chance of landing heads or tails but there's only a 3.125% chance of landing five "heads" in a row.

    Paul's math is dead on. Using just het x het, there is a 13.35% chance that no visual will hatch out using seven eggs. In other words, an 86.65% chance that one will. This is well over 99% for a visual x het.
    Last edited by Jabberwocky Dragons; 02-22-2012 at 03:23 PM.

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    Thanks for the replies. I get that there is a difference between poss het and 100% het. I just question whether this is 100% het. Hence the possible 100% het. The seller had good feedback on fauna, just didnt have much feedback. Maybe i will know for sure in three years.

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    my opinion....poss het = normal. i would not buy but i did say it is my opinion
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    Re: Poss Het Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    my opinion....poss het = normal. i would not buy but i did say it is my opinion
    If I told you how many lavender albinos and spider lavender albinos I produced from 50% poss. het females you'd change your mind...fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Where did you come up with those numbers...? They all sound wrong to me but please prove me otherwise.
    The percentages are per egg. Not per clutch.
    I get what you were saying now paulh, after reading what other people said. The way you put it made no sense to me though lol. Sorry didnt mean to sound rude
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    Re: Poss Het Question

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Green View Post
    If I told you how many lavender albinos and spider lavender albinos I produced from 50% poss. het females you'd change your mind...fast.
    guess you have better luck than I do
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