Mike- they were stating that the mojave x lesser or mojave x butter is more of a genetic powerhouse than just a super of one of the snakes. I like both lucies. I will have both blue and black eyed lucies and a few different mixes of the blue eyed lucies this year. I am doing mojave x mojave and mojave x butter. I am one of the odd balls that likes the head pattern on the super mojave I guess. My fires will make great black eyed lucies. I have seen what their parents have done and I really hope it is passed down through their genes.