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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

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    Just went through the same issue. Before i say this keep in mind this is what worked for my situation. I am in no way saying that you should follow what i did but this is what i did. A buddy of mine who has a 2500 gram pastel female that was breeding heavy came down with a horrible case of ri. When i mean horrible i mean death bed horrible. Not only was she gurgling and bubbling but she had blood coming out of the mouth and the whole nine yards. So he brought her to me so i could see what i could do considering he has only been keeping and breeding snakes for a couple years. First thing i did was put her in the quarantine med rack. Got her on news paper and lowered humidity and jacked the heat to 93. I then put her on a treatment of baytril. The reason i put her on baytril without taking her to the vet is because over the years i have had good success with my methods. She went on a 30 day cycle of baytril. The ri cleared up and she actually laid 8 great eggs and they are in the incubator and babies seem to be good through candleing. I dont advise working with baytril as a go to. Ive been doing this a long time and have had alot of experience with this and work very closely with my vets so im confident in myself with what i do. Again this was how i took care of it. But i will say lowering humidity and jacking the heat has always worked good for me when dealing with ri. Also i have found newspaper is the best to put them on.
    OMG!
    How horrible that must have been!
    Bless you for saving her life!

    Norma's on newspaper and I adjusted her temps...they were were 94-95 in the hottest spot so I lowered it a bit.
    I had to hunt to like mad to find a spare temp/hum digital gauge and I'm waiting right now to check what her humidity is.

    She seems somewhat better.
    Would an impending shed have seriously ramped up her symptoms?

    She just finished shedding and seems less stressed, now but tired from the shed.

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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

    Thankfully I have never had to deal with RI in my Ball collection...But what I learned working first hand with others breeders...

    Get to a vet and get some meds...News Paper for substrate, Temps about 95 and no humidity...Just add a very small amount of water in the bowl so she can get a drink if she wants.

    Depending on how bad the RI is, raising the temps and lowering the humidity could kick it...But meds are always best.

    High humidity promotes RI.
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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

    Quote Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    Thankfully I have never had to deal with RI in my collection...But what I learned working first hand with others breeders...

    Get to a vet and get some meds...News Paper for substrate, Temps about 95 and no humidity...Just add a very small amount of water in the bowl so she can get a drink if she wants.

    Depending on how bad the RI is, raising the temps and lowering the humidity could kick it...But meds are always best.

    High humidity promotes RI.
    Thanks Jon.

    None of the possible herp vets are open today so I have no choice but to wait until Monday and hope I can get an appt. fast.

    Should I allow her the usual gradient or just make the whole tub bottom 95?

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    When a snake is sick im sure a shed or anything could pose more stressful. And stress causes a number of things. I wouldnt get over stressed yourself. When keeping any animals theres always the learning curve we go through. Everything you go through just makes you that much equipted to handle in the future. When dealing with any health issue it is best to get to the vet. Then you can figure out in the future if it needs vet attention or home remedies. I really thought this pastel girl was going to end bad. I had never seen one so bad with ri and live. I was very lucky. My buddy was so nervous about her and keeping her that he feared this being a issue in the future. So he wanted to get rid of her. He asked me if i would trade him a rack i had laying around for her and of course i jumped on that lol. Shes doing great now and pounding food getting her weight back after laying.
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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

    Quote Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    Thanks Jon.

    None of the possible herp vets are open today so I have no choice but to wait until Monday and hope I can get an appt. fast.

    Should I allow her the usual gradient or just make the whole tub bottom 95?
    No problem...Good Luck.

    If You can get the whole tub temps up I would...just please make sure you are measuring the temps accurately.

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    X2 ^ make sure those temp readings are acurate. You can get a good temp gun at home depot pretty cheap.
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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

    Quote Originally Posted by snake lab View Post
    When a snake is sick im sure a shed or anything could pose more stressful. And stress causes a number of things. I wouldnt get over stressed yourself. When keeping any animals theres always the learning curve we go through. Everything you go through just makes you that much equipted to handle in the future. When dealing with any health issue it is best to get to the vet. Then you can figure out in the future if it needs vet attention or home remedies. I really thought this pastel girl was going to end bad. I had never seen one so bad with ri and live. I was very lucky. My buddy was so nervous about her and keeping her that he feared this being a issue in the future. So he wanted to get rid of her. He asked me if i would trade him a rack i had laying around for her and of course i jumped on that lol. Shes doing great now and pounding food getting her weight back after laying.
    Lucky you for getting her but that's sure not the way I'm built.

    All I can think of is saving her and keeping everybody else healthy.

    [I'm think I'm one of those people who "love too much"]

    You can't imagine what I went through to save the dog who just died.

    It was a a year and a half unending battle of ups and downs and just when she seemed to be doing better, she just 'went in her sleep'.

    I don't think I'm capable of "giving up".


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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

    Quote Originally Posted by snake lab View Post
    X2 ^ make sure those temp readings are acurate. You can get a good temp gun at home depot pretty cheap.
    I don't have a cheap one.
    I bought a good one because the first one I got at Home depot [a Ryobi] was a piece of junk that wasn't anything near accurate.

    That was the first piece of equipment I got when I got my first BP.
    The second was a thermostat.



    Should I 'pre-emptively' bump everybody she was exposed to up a degree or two, just in case?

    I just went and checked everybody's temps/hum and they're at their usual stable, proper parameters.

    Norma no longer has any snot/mucus/bubbles showing.

    Can I be a little hopeful?


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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

    Quote Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    No problem...Good Luck.

    If You can get the whole tub temps up I would...just please make sure you are measuring the temps accurately.
    I can get the whole tub uniformly heated, no problem.

    The trusty IR gun is working over time, today.

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    Re: OMG.....my worst fear has come to pass

    .........I'm SO... confused...... my humidity is at 35-40% IA that bad...
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