An Idea to Let FWS Know How We Really Feel.

[CapeFearConstrictors]

The problem with using Betty White as a spokes person is that she is a huge HSUS supporter. She did support PETA at one point but last I heard she no longer supports that cause.

I was not aware of this. I wonder if she knows what HSUS is really all about? If she dropped support for PETA, that might be the case.

[snake lab]

Hey wes, do you ever think before you speak? The bottom line is if something is not done those people you speak of that want to keep their collections annonymous wont be allowed to have them. Support is what is needed if you sit back and dont stand up for what your doing then its going to be taken from you. But im sure you knew that already consiidering you seem to know it all. Oh man i hope your not gonna tell on me again so i get banned buy it is what it is

[WingedWolfPsion]

donna, don't you EVER research the ideas you throw out?

Usually, yes. I missed something this time.
Don't you EVER have anything nice to say to anyone? Or even anything constructive? How did your post contribute to the effort to save reptiles from being added to the Lacey Act?

Do you have any actual suggestions?

[wilomn]

Usually, yes. I missed something this time.
Don't you EVER have anything nice to say to anyone? Or even anything constructive? How did your post contribute to the effort to save reptiles from being added to the Lacey Act?

Do you have any actual suggestions?

It's not the first time you've "missed" something. Nor the second, or third. Pointing that out to people who have not seen you do this is constructive.

My actual suggestion is for you to STOP posting. If that's not possible for you, then perhaps, just maybe, YOU could ACTUALLY read what you pass on before you post.

Anything else I can help you with? I'm feeling generous tonight.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Yes, I'm still waiting for your actual suggestion which would HELP with the problem we are all facing. Do you not have one?

[zeion97]

Yes, I'm still waiting for your actual suggestion which would HELP with the problem we are all facing. Do you not have one?

Do we really need to have yet another fight within the community? Your enthusiasm should be the most important thing, and i won't make a comment to things i don't know.. but we need to calm down and all get on one page.. We're all just going off in different directions try to each help the community and over turn the ban but all we're doing is making chaos.....

[wilomn]

Yes, I'm still waiting for your actual suggestion which would HELP with the problem we are all facing. Do you not have one?

Your INFORMED opinion would, maybe, be helpful.

Your posts so far, are not.

If I posted the idiocy you do, would you not have something to say?

I hope you at least think you're being helpful, but usually, you're not. I may be one of the only ones to say so, but we both know I'm not the only one who thinks so. That's something you need to deal with.

That's about all the helpful I have for you. Take it or not, but deep down you know I'm right.

[WingedWolfPsion]

Ok, so now I'm waiting for a MODERATOR, and your actual suggestion...if you have one.

Does anyone else have any suggestions? The more ideas we get now, the better chance we have of putting together the best possible plan.

[snake lab]

Getting the word out any way we can and raising awarness to the situation is the only way to get things accomplished. The useless banter by wes as usual doesnt help anything.

[Kinra]

Does anyone else have any suggestions? The more ideas we get now, the better chance we have of putting together the best possible plan.

My locally herp society is starting up a public awareness campaign. We are meeting next Wednesday to discuss what we are going to do but our president has an idea.

First up we are meeting in a semi public place (Barnes and Noble) for our first meeting to discuss this. We are going to to make up fliers to hang around town. From there we are going to host a large general public meeting.

Our plan of attack is going to be to expose PETA and HSUS for what they truly are, anti-pet organization with the ideal of ending all pet ownership. We are also going to expose how donating to them doesn't really do much to stop animal cruelty or help local shelters/any shelter.

We know we aren't going to get most of the population angry about a snake ban but if we can make them see how unjust it is and how the organization back it are really after their pets as well we might be able to rally more support.

Ben Siegel also recently started up an intermediary adoption agency to help re-home the burms that are going to be displaced because of this ban. http://www.savetheburms.org/
http://www.facebook.com/savetheburms