Ever think that my spider may be more adapted to this world then your normal?

[Mike Cavanaugh]

@ Mike - I'm not going to get into a personal squabble with you, so don't bait or I'll leave the discussion. I don't get the sense that you're contributing to your thread to learn anything, which is a real shame since you're wrong on many of your points..

If I am wrong on so many points, perhaps you can point out one or two of those points and provide proof that I am wrong... should be easy enough to do considering you know so many educated people...

I'm confused how owning and breeding more spider ball pythons in plastic bins makes you better equipped to discuss evolution, genetics, or medical disorders with me...

Unlike you, when asked something, I answer it directly. If you had more experience and time with spiders and spider combos from hatchling, to adult, to reproduction, you would see that the symptoms associated with ataxia are very different then what is observed in spider ball pythons.

I'm speaking under the premise of what is known fact and universally accepted by people much smarter and who have done much more of their homework than you or I. You're speaking to your own personal speculation. I'm not telling you that you're wrong to be a jerk... I'm telling you that you're wrong because you're wrong.

OH! My appologies... I was not aware of these universally accepted facts. Certainly if something is universally accepted, there are studies or published scientific opinions on the subject? Right? Please do share these studies and opinions on the spider ball python. I would love to be educated on them... as I am sure the rest of the ball python community would too.

Sorry Mike - all about facts here. There has only been one spider ever found in the wild, and that one spider was imported to Kevin McCurley.

All spiders are outcrossed direct descendants of Kevin's founding spider.

That's a well known bit of spider history. No other spider has ever been imported as a WC animal, or found as a WC animal.

Robin - I agree with most of these facts... Only ones I don't agree with are... "There has only been one spider ever found in the wild" and "No other spider has ever been imported as a wc animal, or found as a wc animal."

Neither you or I know if another spider has been found in the wild. We as Americans like to THINK we know everything that goes on in other countries... but we don't.

Also, even if man hasn't found another spider ball python in the wild, it doesn't mean they arent out there.