question about ethicality of producing hybrids

[WingedWolfPsion]

Yes, but if folks had a bunch of ball pythons that might be hybrids...what difference would that make?
Would it make them worse pets?
Would it make them less attractive?

These are pet snakes, and they'll always be pet snakes. Designing them to be better suited as pets is good for them, as well as us. (Honestly, most reptile breeders need to wake up and start selecting for temperament).

I share your uneasiness with hybrids, don't get me wrong...but I also recognize that it's not entirely rational.

[AGoldReptiles]

You do know that carpet pythons hybridise in the wild right? Coastals and jungles share a lot of territory and they all can run into each other naturally. So what is the problem with carpet python hybrids?

This would not be a hybrid, it would be an intergrade.

I see a lot of people saying that they don't have a problem with hybrids as long as they are properly labeled as such. The problem with that is that the track record of this hobby says it won't happen. Some are dishonest and others may pass of these animals without the knowledge of them being hybrids.

Anyone who looks deeply into milkshakes knows how big this issue really is. Did you know most of the Honduran milkshakes in the hobby are intergrades? "Milkheads" refer to them as "hobby hondos". Carpet python hobbiests should look closely at what has happened in the past with milks/kings because they are headed down a very similar path. Once the gene pools are " muddied" up there is no going back.

So weather people are lying about hybrids, or simply are just ignorant as to what a particular snake may be, I just fail to see how hybrids can be anything but bad for our hobby.

[mr.spooky]

This would not be a hybrid, it would be an intergrade.

I see a lot of people saying that they don't have a problem with hybrids as long as they are properly labeled as such. The problem with that is that the track record of this hobby says it won't happen. Some are dishonest and others may pass of these animals without the knowledge of them being hybrids.

Anyone who looks deeply into milkshakes knows how big this issue really is. Did you know most of the Honduran milkshakes in the hobby are intergrades? "Milkheads" refer to them as "hobby hondos". Carpet python hobbiests should look closely at what has happened in the past with milks/kings because they are headed down a very similar path. Once the gene pools are " muddied" up there is no going back.

So weather people are lying about hybrids, or simply are just ignorant as to what a particular snake may be, I just fail to see how hybrids can be anything but bad for our hobby.

MILKSHAKES??????
SPOOKY

[AGoldReptiles]

MILKSHAKES??????
SPOOKY

Darn autocorrect

[Wh00h0069]

MILKSHAKES??????
SPOOKY

Now that sounds tasty.

[bad-one]

The only hybrid I would have issues with is one produced by using animals that are uncommon or rare when it comes to finding pure examples of said species.

Well that, and misrepresented hybrids.