Need URGENT help/advice...

[Ridinandreptiles]

California....WAYYYY out in the boonies

[Valentine Pirate]

I've always heard to refrigerate, DO NOT freeze it (this is only echoing what I've seen suggested before though, not personal experience). Are there any emergency pet hospitals in your area? Even if your closest vet is closed, you could call up the nearest open one and ask for more specific instructions on how they want you to keep the dead snake until you can get a necropsy done

[loonunit]

Hey, if it is crypto, you need to disinfect with ammonia, not bleach. Or as well as bleach, but NEVER mix the two. They make hydrochloric gas together, and can really hurt you.

EDIT: Internet says you can also try hydrogen peroxide instead of ammonia, since it's less noxious.

[mr.spooky]

I've always heard to refrigerate, DO NOT freeze it (this is only echoing what I've seen suggested before though, not personal experience). Are there any emergency pet hospitals in your area? Even if your closest vet is closed, you could call up the nearest open one and ask for more specific instructions on how they want you to keep the dead snake until you can get a necropsy done

the snake has been dead for atleast two days now, refrigerating might slow down necrosis, but it has 5 days to go. snakes decompose fast. iv already made my sugestion, but on a further note,,, if the OP has many snakes that might be compromised, it might be a good idea take one of the sick snakes in when the vet office opens to have it euthanised, and have a necropsy done on that snake.
it sounds like its hapening to more than one snake, and if its as fast as the OP has sugested, it sounds pretty serious.
spooky

[Ridinandreptiles]

i might take your sugestion spooky....im going nuts and my brain is filled with thoughts....i love my snakes and what is happening is ripping me apart!!!

[Salamander Rising]

I've heard freezing it is the last thing you should do as it can kill whatever the cause was. My inexperienced guess would be to refrigerate, but I'd hold off on that until someone with more experience with this chimes in...

Definitely refrigerate, never freeze.

[Salamander Rising]

I've always heard to refrigerate, DO NOT freeze it (this is only echoing what I've seen suggested before though, not personal experience). Are there any emergency pet hospitals in your area? Even if your closest vet is closed, you could call up the nearest open one and ask for more specific instructions on how they want you to keep the dead snake until you can get a necropsy done

Freezing "explodes" all cellular walls due to formation/expansion of ice crystals, rendering them useless for necropsy.

[mr.spooky]

Freezing "explodes" all cellular walls due to formation/expansion of ice crystals, rendering them useless for necropsy.

we all know that, a refrigerator is best,,, but for 8 days?????? will it last???
is a frozen body useless for necropsy,, some times yes,, sometimes not..
is a rotten body useless for necropsy???? all the time yes....
BTW, when did the snake actually die? 30 seconds after he left for vacation,, or 30 seconds before he found it? 2 days is a long time frame when your talking about being adequate for a necropsy. especialy in a 80 +* environment.
given the information that has been stated by the OP, freezing the specimen is the best possible option if waiting that long for a necropsy.
my 2 last thoughts on this is :
1. have a necropsy done ASAP on the dead one
2. take a sick one to the vet ASAP
spooky

[mr.spooky]

here are 4 animal state diagnostic labs in Cali. you might ask if they acept submisions from private owners.
CAHFS - Davis Laboratory
University of California
West Health Sciences Drive
Davis, CA 95616
Phone: 530-752-8700
Fax: 530-752-6253
cahfsdavis@cahfs.ucdavis.edu

CAHFS - San Bernardino Laboratory
Branch Chief: Dr. Hailu Kinde
105 W. Central Avenue
San Bernardino, CA
92408-2113
Phone: (909) 383-4287
Fax: (909) 884-5980
cahfssanbernardino@cahfs.ucdavis.edu

CAHFS - Tulare Laboratory
Branch Chief: Dr. Patricia Blanchard
18830 Road 112
Tulare, CA
93274-9042
Phone: (559) 688-7543
Fax: (559) 686-4231
cahfstulare@cahfs.ucdavis.edu

CAHFS - Turlock Laboratory
Branch Chief: Dr. Bruce Charlton
1550 Soderquist Rd.
Turlock, CA
95381-2204
Phone: (209) 634-5837
Fax: (209) 667-4261
cahfsturlock@cahfs.ucdavis.edu
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spooky

[WingedWolfPsion]

Please let us know what you find out. (The more informed we all are on the hazards to our animals, the better we can all care for them--I would also want to know what to check for if I ever had a snake come down with symptoms like those).

I really think the current recommendations for quarantine are inadequate. As painful as it might be for some folks to lose a breeding season, new animals should be quarantined for 12 months....not 3.

I'm sorry for your loss, and I hope that you get a swift diagnosis and an effective treatment.