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    I've actually never had issues switching most of my older snakes back and forth from live to FT and back, if they have eaten both, but some individual hatchlings get fussy. Heat the FT up until it's almost hot to the touch, that usually solves any issues.
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    Re: Off feed question

    Quote Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    I've actually never had issues switching most of my older snakes back and forth from live to FT and back, if they have eaten both, but some individual hatchlings get fussy. Heat the FT up until it's almost hot to the touch, that usually solves any issues.
    I usually leave the frozen mouse in almost boiling water for 15 minutes. Hotter than that? Do I need to bring the water to a boil, then?

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    Boiling I think is way too hot. I usually thaw mine out on the counter for a few hours, then keep them in ziplock bags and let them float in hot (sink) water for about 20 minutes. If I have a really picky eater I'll zap it with the hair dryer for another 5 minutes or so...to heat just the head up.
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    It absolutely worked!!! I put a f/t in a zip lock bag with some dirty bedding from the live mice I fed her previously, and submersed it in boiling water for 15 minutes...then took out the mouse, rinsed the stuck bedding in the hot water and she took it immediately!!! I am so happy that it's that easy to fool her! Glad she's back on f/t now. Thank you all for the advice, I believe my feeding woes are now over!
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    Re: Off feed question

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    Not sure where you heard you can switch back and forth without issue, ball pythons are probably one of the tougher species to switch back and forth with...

    You could start with prekilled first and work from there. Maybe giving her a few live meals will kick start her feeding response again. For picky eaters I usually start out live hoppers, then adult mice, then once they put on a little weight I get rat pups and scent them with a f/t mouse, thaw them out together and heat hem up together. So far I've had a good success rate besides one of mine that's still refusing f/t.
    What would do you for a "traumatized" live feeder?

    We tried to switch him over with to F/T no success at all and went back to live.
    Unfortunately, his last little meal was a scrappy teen mouse who fought back and now the snake acts "phobic" about them.

    He won't eat F/T instead and "stunned" and "pre-killed" are totally ignored as "not food" so I have no idea what to try next.

    I was thinking of getting him some pitiful little hoppers who can't "fight back", hoping he'll regain his former merciless killer confidence.

    Beyond that, I'm lost for better ideas.


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    Re: Off feed question

    Quote Originally Posted by Salamander View Post
    What would do you for a "traumatized" live feeder?

    We tried to switch him over with to F/T no success at all and went back to live.
    Unfortunately, his last little meal was a scrappy teen mouse who fought back and now the snake acts "phobic" about them.

    He won't eat F/T instead and "stunned" and "pre-killed" are totally ignored as "not food" so I have no idea what to try next.

    I was thinking of getting him some pitiful little hoppers who can't "fight back", hoping he'll regain his former merciless killer confidence.

    Beyond that, I'm lost for better ideas.

    My guy did that last year. I had to get him smaller mice for a while because he was terrified of the bigger ones for a bit there. When I stuck him with a smaller mouse (not quite hopper sized, but a small juvie) he took it. I gave him a bit larger one the next time, and after that size didn't matter anymore. Little bugger still won't take a rat pup or small rat though. Darn him. Lol. He'd grow so much faster if he'd just take rats. :/

    Anyway, try a smaller juvie if he was on larger before. If not, then yeah maybe try a hopper. If THAT doesn't work, try getting a different color mouse. Good luck!
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    Re: Off feed question

    Quote Originally Posted by WarriorPrincess90 View Post
    My guy did that last year. I had to get him smaller mice for a while because he was terrified of the bigger ones for a bit there. When I stuck him with a smaller mouse (not quite hopper sized, but a small juvie) he took it. I gave him a bit larger one the next time, and after that size didn't matter anymore. Little bugger still won't take a rat pup or small rat though. Darn him. Lol. He'd grow so much faster if he'd just take rats. :/

    Anyway, try a smaller juvie if he was on larger before. If not, then yeah maybe try a hopper. If THAT doesn't work, try getting a different color mouse. Good luck!
    Thanks!

    [as if feeding him live wasn't bad enough...now I have to feed him cute little mouse pups....I swear he does all this just to torture me]

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