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    You can have a huge snake if you have kids...get a freakin child lock on it, and feed your darn snake. I have seen another site on this story, and it said the snake was only 13 pounds, and it SHOULD have been over a 100. This story also stated that their lid had supposedly broken, so they were keeping the snake penned in it's tank by throwing a QUILT over the top of it.

    These people did not deserve to breed. That child is better off. And finally the snake is, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missy King View Post
    You can have a huge snake if you have kids...get a freakin child lock on it, and feed your darn snake. I have seen another site on this story, and it said the snake was only 13 pounds, and it SHOULD have been over a 100. This story also stated that their lid had supposedly broken, so they were keeping the snake penned in it's tank by throwing a QUILT over the top of it.

    These people did not deserve to breed. That child is better off. And finally the snake is, too.
    No offense but you can have a level 4 biohazard lab in your house as long as you maintain proper protocols, but that doesn't mean you should. It's all about cost benefit analysis to me. If I can have a big boa constrictor with no reports of killing kids, plus the plethora of smaller non-venomous snakes that are smaller, what benefit do I get with a bigger or venomous snake that makes it worth the additional risk to my child? The answer is that unless having it is the only way you can provide for your family NONE!

    Now, separate from the no offense portion of my post, no child deserves to die, especially for their parents stupidity. History is full of success stories of people coming from horrible backgrounds and still doing great things!


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    I personally think that all reptiles should have a room to be kept in that lockable room door if needed to keep kids out with proper piece of material at the bottom to prevent the snake(s) from squeezing under the door getting hurt.
    I am gald the artical says the snake survived it injuries and is beeing kept ata proper reptile place. I bet if you showed a picture of it now vs then see a big difference.
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    Re: Monster quest Pythons

    Also, this the kid is better off thing just doesn't sit right with me. One, there are plenty of examples of kids from poor and impoverished up bringings becoming very influential to our society. Secondly I question the supposed eugenics nature to the statement. My son has an autosomal disease that is very rare that is likely terminal. This disease is a result of Mom, and Dad, being essentially (het) for this disorder. The probabilty of being (het) is 1/300. Which means it is likely there are at least a few that would read this. That doesn't really matter, because to produce a visual requires mating with someone else who is (het). But since this isn't something anyone tracks who knows!?!? My point is that one, kids can far exceed there expectations, like my son who so far has brought a lot of light to peoples lives and two, those who would say eugenic type statements haven't had their DNA screened for flaws. Understand that the reason incest is bad from a genetic level is that you just highly increase the probability that you match a "het" with a "het" to create a visual. In human genetics and probably in genetics in general, visuals aren't always desirable!

    Anyway, sorry for the rant. My only desire from everything that I said is that the children can always surpass expectations!

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    Re: Monster quest Pythons

    This story sickens me. I've heard it so many times... nearly every show about "killer snakes" uses IT. Or the reticulated python story in a believe 06' in IL. (Dun quote me on the date) the truth to the matter is that ALMOST every case of a PET constrictor killing a child or a animal is from a flaw from the Owner. Yes, large constructors should need some experience to be owned, but they shouldn't be banded for a few peoples shortcuts to housing a snake... I may house my 5 foot Burmese in a tank, but I make sure It is always locked and I keep 15 pounds of extra weight on the lid...

    To what was said about a kid dying, no it should NEVER happen but with people who want a large constrictor as a pet And have NO idea what they're doing its sadly could happen... the ONLY thing Reptile wise I will never keep in my house is a hot. I Love them, but I believe you have a better chance of a hot killing a kid then a python. BUT!!! that doesn't mean hot owners should have there snakes taken away. There are many people who have small kids that have hots and large snakes And have no problems due to the right husbandry techniques and a "escape artist" plan.

    I'm not saying you can't have a opinion, opinions are one of the best aspects of being human and it helps us learn.
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    The problem isn't the animal, its the owners. Its sad that the community doesn't see that. There is a huge issue right now in Toronto (where I am ) about snakes being found in apartment building walls, and in peoples toilets, and other stupid things. There's a huge issue now because people think that ball pythons and corn snakes are dangerous.. It's causing all the responsible owners unnecessary hardship from neighbors and landlords.

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    Quote Originally Posted by decensored View Post
    The problem isn't the animal, its the owners. Its sad that the community doesn't see that. There is a huge issue right now in Toronto (where I am ) about snakes being found in apartment building walls, and in peoples toilets, and other stupid things. There's a huge issue now because people think that ball pythons and corn snakes are dangerous.. It's causing all the responsible owners unnecessary hardship from neighbors and landlords.
    I'll agree it isn't the animal, cause they are what they are. I think the problem is owners thinking they are part of the responsible crowd when they are not.


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    Re: Monster quest Pythons

    Quote Originally Posted by Gomojoe View Post
    Your right snakes do what snakes do, which is why I don't think you should own a snake capable of easily killing your kids. Stick to boas and BPs, Corns, kings, milks, and the like. Wait till your kids are prob at least 10+ before going with the big constrictors and probably don't go for hots until your kids are out of the house.


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    I have to disagree with your statement here. There are very responsible large constrictor and hot owners with children. Myself included.

    I too blame the owners for what happened, as the snake did not have a proper enclosure, nor was fed properly.
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    Re: Monster quest Pythons

    IMO the age of a person should not determine the kind of snake you get; Knowledge/Experience, Ability to properly care, and are financially able to care for the animal you want should be(or the wife says NO!!! and you listen). Any snake considered a "large Constrictor" can potentially kill a person (child, teen or adult) I would not get a snake I didn't like just because I thought it would be less dangerous, most people buy snakes they like and some prefer big snakes.

    on a side note, I think a teenager would be at "risk" the most because they are more curious, have the ability to get into a secure snake room/trusted more and are at the age where the want to show friends their cool snake(not that kind, to all you perves out there).

    But if you want to get a smaller snake because you think it's the safer route then by all means, to each his own. There is a snake out there for everyone.

    I'm not touching on HOTs because I have no experience with them.

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    Re: Monster quest Pythons

    IMO, this is a very cut and dry case of complete neglect by the parents. Big Burms need a very secure cage or they will get out. They are always checking out their enclosure looking for the "weak" spot. They wonder around. A douvet (not sure how it is spelled) is not an secure lid.

    In the article it said they were both unemployed, they could not afford to feed the burm properly. The last meal they gave the poor thing was road kill. It probably was not a very big squirrel to boot.

    The part that really angers me, they had family and friends offer to keep the snake securely, offered different situations for all of it and were declined. These folks put their child in danger by pure neglect and they should pay with as much as the law will allow.

    Unfortunately due to folks like this the whole herp community gets a huge black eye, which with all the legislation trying to get passed in a lot of states hurts us badly.

    Sorry for the ranting, this... upsets me!

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