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12-12-2011, 03:30 PM
#121
just curious what do blood balls look like? Does anyone have a pic that I can see? i really like to see how one looks like
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12-12-2011, 03:36 PM
#122
Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
 Originally Posted by bwt501
exactly my point about responsible breeding and selfish shortsightedness in the name of morbid curiosity. Was the new owner made aware that this blood was being bred to a ball and may very well be gravid with frankensnakes? Bloods have amazing sperm retention abilities (years) and this animal may very well be tainted for future breedings. 
 Originally Posted by bwt501
Far from it. What was such a stretch for you?
Oh, let's see...
"Selfish shortsightedness"
"may very well be..."
"gravid with frankensnakes"
"tainted for future breedings"
And just the overall tone of the entire paragraph implying that the future of blood pythons is at stake because one female shared a tub with a male ball python a couple of times. But that may be a bit of exaggeration on my own part, as you didn't actually SAY that, but it sure looks like that's how you see it. 
Anyhow...you're certainly entitled to your opinion on hybrids. And I'm entitled to my opinion of how you express your opinion.
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12-12-2011, 03:36 PM
#123
Here are some blood/ball hybrid pic links:
http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/super.html
http://www.darksidereptiles.com/foru...p?topic=1192.0
You can see in the second link a "Mongrel Ball" as well as the F2 "Super Ball"
The mongrel is the reason a lot of people fear this project. When breeding the hybrid back to a ball python, the babies look more like ball pythons. However, the F2 hybrids still look pretty stellar to me, and definitely don't look like either species.
Now, this pairing might have looked different as it was a female blood and male ball. Just like how the liger and the tigron are different due to parents.
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12-12-2011, 03:48 PM
#124
Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
 Originally Posted by Wh00h0069
FYI, there are many keepers out there who will not deal with breeders who breed hybrids. Just something to consider before you venture into breeding hybrids.
thats something to think about..... ill pass that on to N.E.R.D, Ben Siegel, Steve Roussis, and so on. they might also want to rethink their actions.  
im not wanting to produce these to put them out to the public, i have one thing that id like to shoot for to have in my persional colection.
spooky
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12-12-2011, 03:59 PM
#125
Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
 Originally Posted by mr.spooky
i have one thing that id like to shoot for to have in my persional colection.
spooky
What are you trying to make out of curiosity? (sorry to derail)
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12-12-2011, 04:18 PM
#126
The burm ball is rather nice
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12-12-2011, 04:27 PM
#127
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Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
 Originally Posted by JLC
Oh, let's see...
"Selfish shortsightedness"
"may very well be..."
"gravid with frankensnakes"
"tainted for future breedings"
And just the overall tone of the entire paragraph implying that the future of blood pythons is at stake because one female shared a tub with a male ball python a couple of times. But that may be a bit of exaggeration on my own part, as you didn't actually SAY that, but it sure looks like that's how you see it.
Anyhow...you're certainly entitled to your opinion on hybrids. And I'm entitled to my opinion of how you express your opinion. 
Fair enough, and I won't deny that my intended tone was meant to be abrasive. As a troll with a minimal post count, it is obvious that this is a softer, kinder forum where feelings are easily bruised and any adversity with the core clique is met with cries of foul play and insults. But I do emplore those that don't care for my posts, please realize the passion behind them as Mr.Mead so eloquently posted earlier where he was summarily bashed as well( those that did obviously have no interest or respect for the history of modern herpetoculture, because if you did you would bite your tongue for your snarky distasteful remarks ).
That being said, feel free to rip into me, it doesn't hurt, that's the beauty of the fake make believe world of the Internet, but do remember that these animals deserve our respect and we owe it to them to keep them in demand because soon enough the only place they will be found is in Rubbermaid tubs in someone's basement. In closing, someone emailed me to ask if they can name their metal band - Gravid with Frankensnakes. Such praise will only embolden me to continue on the path I'm on.
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12-12-2011, 04:29 PM
#128
I like bateaters personally. 
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12-12-2011, 05:15 PM
#129
Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
 Originally Posted by purplemuffin
Here are some blood/ball hybrid pic links:
http://www.roussisreptiles.com/colle...lls/super.html
http://www.darksidereptiles.com/foru...p?topic=1192.0
You can see in the second link a "Mongrel Ball" as well as the F2 "Super Ball"
The mongrel is the reason a lot of people fear this project. When breeding the hybrid back to a ball python, the babies look more like ball pythons. However, the F2 hybrids still look pretty stellar to me, and definitely don't look like either species.
Now, this pairing might have looked different as it was a female blood and male ball. Just like how the liger and the tigron are different due to parents.
thank you,
I think those are lovely, but I like them better when they have more of a ball nose, idkw :/. Overall, I think the patterns are cool
Boys:________________________________________________________________________________ __________________________
Pewter - Dexter | Butter 100% Het Orange Ghost (Hypo) - Butters | Super Fire - Mr. Buttons | Mystic - Charming | Banana Enchi Woma - Gizmo |
Girls:________________________________________________________________________________ __________________________
Pinstripe - Honey | Mojave - Maya | Lesser - Pepper | Calico 50% Het Orange Ghost (Hypo) - Jewel | Normal 100% Het Pied - Hinata | Butter 100% Het Orange Ghost (Hypo) - Aurora | Spider 100% Het Orange Ghost (Hypo) - Betsy | Blue Eye Leustic 50% Het Orange Ghost (Hypo) - Snowflake | Spinner Blast - Jasmin | Butterbee - Ariel | Hypo Butter - Penelope |
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12-12-2011, 05:33 PM
#130
Re: Trying at BloodBalls..
 Originally Posted by Daybreaker
What are you trying to make out of curiosity? (sorry to derail)
i will only say its a recessive gene
spooky
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