Ballbids.com

[mr.spooky]

this just says it all
BallBids.com Tony, i am sorry i had to delete your post but you can not post things that say we look bad and such. We are trying to make sure that people that come to our site for the first time do not see negativity. A lot of these posts are scaring others away that could be potential fans. You need to remember that this is a business not just someones wall. Thanks again

Zack:-)5 minutes ago.

pretty much,, there wanting to keep the wool pulled over everyones eyes..
i understand that someone can learn alot within a year, and i respect that,
but this statement alone is enough to convince me that they are worthless and havent learned anything ..... i sooooo wish i could post on their wall.
spooky

[jbean7916]

Now the marty guy that has been defending them all day worked on the programming? it is like a slow motion train wreck

sent from my EVO

[SMSReptiles]

Here is a email from Zack Byers about what he thinks the reptile community is.

Zack Byers
LOL, you have a lot to learn. We have done something that nobody else has done before. We have created more buzz then anyone or anything else has done before in this community. And we have brought in more views upon this community the ever before. The fact you believe I am hurting my self is ignorant because you do not see the amount of people getting involved with my auctions. When people come to our site the representation of our community has been so bad that you do not see that it is hurting everyone in the community. The people that want to argue and make false accusations are making us all look bad as an industry. The problem with the ball python community is that everyone thinks they are an expert and they are entitled to what ever. They aren't and I really do not need the approval of you or anybody who thinks this way. Sorry but you all have already lost. Now I am going to do what I set off to do in the first place, and that is to make this community stronger. Whether you think so or not I can assure you that my opinions matter to me more then yours. Thanks

Zack:-)


Here are three more emails from Marty Kersletter who says he has nothing to hide.

Marty Kerstetter
How have I hidden my identity? My name is Marty Kerstetter...same as my email...same as my screen name. same as everything I own. What I see is that the "community" is trying to shut down someone whom they dont control....trying to stop someone from selling snakes becuase it will drive down YOUR prices. Why would I, as a customer, buy from your for thousands when I coudl potentially get it from them for pennies on the dollar? Thats what this is really about. As you for knowing who I am....thats fine...I have nothing to hide from you or anyone

Marty Kerstetter
My facebook is what it is and my pic is what it is. I, unlike you and your community, dont demand people prove anything. Google my name and you can see who I am. What I do with my fb page is my business and what you do with your is yours.

Marty Kerstetter
I put down the people who are bashing a customer of mine. I put down the people that are acting like asses to a fellow snake seller. I put down people that dont respect others rights to sell snakes in whatever manner they see fit. My affiliation with Avi is programming only. What you infer or think about who I am or what I do is of no concern to me. The reptile community is no different from the bulldog community where there are the same type of cutthroat people, but that doenst stop me from programming bulldog websites. Not all breeders are like the ones bashing ballbids, and the ones who are give all breeder a black eye. So you should thank your fellow "community" members for tarnishing the whole community

I will leave it to you guys for what you think that means.

[SMSReptiles]

Oh yea. Marty says he one of Ballbids programmers.

[zeion97]

Here is a email from Zack Byers about what he thinks the reptile community is.

Zack Byers
LOL, you have a lot to learn. We have done something that nobody else has done before. We have created more buzz then anyone or anything else has done before in this community. And we have brought in more views upon this community the ever before. The fact you believe I am hurting my self is ignorant because you do not see the amount of people getting involved with my auctions. When people come to our site the representation of our community has been so bad that you do not see that it is hurting everyone in the community. The people that want to argue and make false accusations are making us all look bad as an industry. The problem with the ball python community is that everyone thinks they are an expert and they are entitled to what ever. They aren't and I really do not need the approval of you or anybody who thinks this way. Sorry but you all have already lost. Now I am going to do what I set off to do in the first place, and that is to make this community stronger. Whether you think so or not I can assure you that my opinions matter to me more then yours. Thanks

Zack:-)


Here are three more emails from Marty Kersletter who says he has nothing to hide.

Marty Kerstetter
How have I hidden my identity? My name is Marty Kerstetter...same as my email...same as my screen name. same as everything I own. What I see is that the "community" is trying to shut down someone whom they dont control....trying to stop someone from selling snakes becuase it will drive down YOUR prices. Why would I, as a customer, buy from your for thousands when I coudl potentially get it from them for pennies on the dollar? Thats what this is really about. As you for knowing who I am....thats fine...I have nothing to hide from you or anyone

Marty Kerstetter
My facebook is what it is and my pic is what it is. I, unlike you and your community, dont demand people prove anything. Google my name and you can see who I am. What I do with my fb page is my business and what you do with your is yours.

Marty Kerstetter
I put down the people who are bashing a customer of mine. I put down the people that are acting like asses to a fellow snake seller. I put down people that dont respect others rights to sell snakes in whatever manner they see fit. My affiliation with Avi is programming only. What you infer or think about who I am or what I do is of no concern to me. The reptile community is no different from the bulldog community where there are the same type of cutthroat people, but that doenst stop me from programming bulldog websites. Not all breeders are like the ones bashing ballbids, and the ones who are give all breeder a black eye. So you should thank your fellow "community" members for tarnishing the whole community

I will leave it to you guys for what you think that means.

Was this presented in a email? I had one Of his fans start bashing me when I was brought into a argument and I said "starting fights within the community defending someone who you have little to no knowledge of him is doing nothing more then.hurting his business more then you are protecting it" but I summed that up in a much LAGER text bubble.. and according to someone I got bashed. Did anyone happen to see this? I accidentally deleted the message.. I'm just wondering did anyone see it?

[Mike Wilbanks]

I am still in Europe but I had some time and read most of this thread so I want to make a quick post. I have earned an honest reputation in this business. I spend way more than In necessary to give my animals only the best care because I truly love them and care about them. I produce quality ball pythons and I ship promptly to customers all over the world. That is why I have a good reputation in this business.

My first reaction is one that I still subscribe to. My job is to produce quality animals and follow through with husbandry and breeding advice. I do not believe that my job includes qualifying every buyer to make sure they rise to some standard that meets my approval and I certainly do not believe that my reputation becomes tied to every person I sell to. That is completely ludicrous.

These guys are young and will hopefully learn from this experience. Some of the comments were beyond harsh, but, hey that's the nature of the Internet and to some extent the reptile community at times.

In the end, because of the way the owners of ballbids have handled much of this and the problem with security on their website or whatever caused the same person to win multiple auctions, they have become toxic. So, we at least, will not be supplying any more ball pythons to them. If they continue, someone will supply them, but I just do not want the hassle of supplying such a controversial business. Now everyone please stop emailing me about this. I have been away and have not even looked at my emails until tonight. Put your efforts to productive use and email HSUS or something. I'm on your side.

[Jessica Loesch]

Here is a email from Zack Byers about what he thinks the reptile community is.

Zack Byers
LOL, you have a lot to learn. We have done something that nobody else has done before. We have created more buzz then anyone or anything else has done before in this community. And we have brought in more views upon this community the ever before. The fact you believe I am hurting my self is ignorant because you do not see the amount of people getting involved with my auctions. When people come to our site the representation of our community has been so bad that you do not see that it is hurting everyone in the community. The people that want to argue and make false accusations are making us all look bad as an industry. The problem with the ball python community is that everyone thinks they are an expert and they are entitled to what ever. They aren't and I really do not need the approval of you or anybody who thinks this way. Sorry but you all have already lost. Now I am going to do what I set off to do in the first place, and that is to make this community stronger. Whether you think so or not I can assure you that my opinions matter to me more then yours. Thanks

Zack:-)

Hum, really? Because I'm pretty sure Pro Exotics Fire > Ballbids as far as buzz in the community. And I'm pretty sure Pro Exotics Fire > Ballbids as far as importance or relevance to the ball python industry.

Zack needs to grow up, and upon further inspection of previous 2010 threads he posted in, facebook stati he has made in the past year, etc, I can truly say Zack is someone I do not want to be or will not be associated with at all.

We've all seen where he stated that he can't wait to get rich fast.

We all know he is in the wrong business.

I have nothing more to say on this matter and I see no reason to say more as ballbids dies a slow death.

[Homegrownscales]

I love it.... Thank you Mr.Wilbanks!


Check out what's new on my website... www.Homegrownscales.com

[mr.spooky]

Thank you Mr.Wilbanks
jason / mr. spooky

[Tarawr88]

Thanks Mr. Wilbanks.

Everything else aside:
When asked about licenses, Zach said he needed none due to operating on a federal level, but federal law says he DOES need a license... Source