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    I'm very picky when it comes to music, but I am definitely a progressive metal fan (especially that of Finnish and Swedish pedigree) and I have a lot of respect for most classical composers. Actual talent and the ability to actually play their instruments is a must. I won't go into my feelings for rap, techno and all this popular modern music made on a computer other than to say I HATE IT!

    A few bands I like:

    Opeth, Turbid North, Soulfallen, Kalmah, Necrophagist, Tool, Obscura, Daylight Dies, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, All That Remains, Shadows Fall, Lamb Of God, Dream Theater, Iced Earth, Agolloch, Edge Of Sanity and tons of bands that will never get any radio play.
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    Re: whats your music???

    Quote Originally Posted by AK907 View Post
    Actual talent and the ability to actually play their instruments is a must.
    A few bands I like:

    Opeth, Turbid North, Soulfallen, Kalmah, Necrophagist, Tool, Obscura, Daylight Dies, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, All That Remains, Shadows Fall, Lamb Of God, Dream Theater, Iced Earth, Agolloch, Edge Of Sanity and tons of bands that will never get any radio play.
    How is creating music with pre-engineered, and custom audio samples NOT talent? It does what its supposed to do IMO. It gets people in the mood to jump around and let loose. I looove doing certain things while bobbing my head listening to some awesome hardstyle techno like headhunterz

    I looove dream theater, tool, all that remains, and all that kind of sound a lot, but i enjoy cruising while listening to immortal technique or some dre ;p. i love and appreciate it all!
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    Music is a way of life. Pure and simple. I love heavier metal, and old 80's even hair metal! My favorite bands though are, 1. Metallica (cliff to Early Jason era) 2. Naglafar 3. Megadeth 4. Dream theater 5. Children Of Bosom. I'm also going to admit I LOVE classical... I'll jut keep that list to myself.

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    How is creating music with pre-engineered, and custom audio samples NOT talent? It does what its supposed to do IMO.
    Not saying you can't create music with it. It has its purpose, but anyone can program a computer to play music. Mastering the skill and techniques required to play an instrument (any instrument, guitar, drums, violin, piano, clarinet, you name it) AND making music takes far more skill and thought than piecing together pre-made sound clips in a computer.

    What really bothers me is when I hear the latest big "artist" come out with a "new song" that is just a remix of a classic song written by another band that they pieced together with some emotionless rapping or overdone R&B moaning recorded over it. Then they slap their thug name on it, have the media cram it down our throats and they are suddenly talented? I don't think so!

    But, I don't care what someone else listens to. I just don't see what is so special about programing a computer.

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    Re: whats your music???

    Quote Originally Posted by AK907 View Post
    What really bothers me is when I hear the latest big "artist" come out with a "new song" that is just a remix of a classic song written by another band that they pieced together with some emotionless rapping or overdone R&B moaning recorded over it. Then they slap their thug name on it, have the media cram it down our throats and they are suddenly talented? I don't think so!



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    Re: whats your music???

    Quote Originally Posted by AK907 View Post
    Not saying you can't create music with it. It has its purpose, but anyone can program a computer to play music. Mastering the skill and techniques required to play an instrument (any instrument, guitar, drums, violin, piano, clarinet, you name it) AND making music takes far more skill and thought than piecing together pre-made sound clips in a computer.

    What really bothers me is when I hear the latest big "artist" come out with a "new song" that is just a remix of a classic song written by another band that they pieced together with some emotionless rapping or overdone R&B moaning recorded over it. Then they slap their thug name on it, have the media cram it down our throats and they are suddenly talented? I don't think so!

    But, I don't care what someone else listens to. I just don't see what is so special about programing a computer.
    I used to also be against electronic music for this reason. However, anybody can also pick up a guitar and play, that doesn't make it GOOD music. There are producers out there making amazing songs with computers and they are NOT using "pre-made" sound clips. I don't think there are any real producers out there making electronic music that is composed of nothing but "pre-made" sound clips. I agree that there is something to be said for playing a real instrument, but please do not just write these artists off because you can't see what they are doing. Many of them have been in bands and come from musical backgrounds and I promise you using some of these programs to create the stuff they do is not as easy as it sounds.

    And what is the difference between a remix and a band covering another bands song?

    The reason electronic gets such a bad rep is because its so easy for anybody to attempt to do it, They don't have to go buy an instrument to try it out. There are soooo many bad remixes like the ones you mentioned ("...emotionless rapping or overdone R&B moaning recorded over it.") on youtube and i hate it. However there are true artists out there making electronic music that I couldn't dream of making. (This is also coming from somebody that plays bass/guitar, and has for some time, if that means anything)
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    Re: whats your music???

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    anybody can also pick up a guitar and play, that doesn't make it GOOD music
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    Re: whats your music???

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    anybody can also pick up a guitar and play, that doesn't make it GOOD music.

    And what is the difference between a remix and a band covering another bands song?
    I wouldn't say anyone can pick up a guitar and play. Trust me, I've tried to teach my wife. I've been playing guitar and bass for 15 years and drums for 8 years. I wouldn't consider myself any good. From a purely technical stand point I am a fairly clean player in most respects, but I could never write beautiful music like Opeth or Beethoven. I'm simply not creative or talented enough. That is why I never said that simply playing guitar makes it good music. I've seen and even been a member of plenty of bad bands. Now if you accomplish the skill it takes to play an instrument and make music people want to hear, THAT, my friend, is a challenge. Throw all that in a live situation and you're in for some fun.

    The difference between a remix and a cover is that most cover bands don't claim the music to be their own and make money off the deal. They do it to play the music and get people in the doors to hear their crappy originals. I've been there.

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    Re: whats your music???

    Quote Originally Posted by AK907 View Post
    I wouldn't say anyone can pick up a guitar and play. Trust me, I've tried to teach my wife. I've been playing guitar and bass for 15 years and drums for 8 years. I wouldn't consider myself any good. From a purely technical stand point I am a fairly clean player in most respects, but I could never write beautiful music like Opeth or Beethoven. I'm simply not creative or talented enough. That is why I never said that simply playing guitar makes it good music. I've seen and even been a member of plenty of bad bands. Now if you accomplish the skill it takes to play an instrument and make music people want to hear, THAT, my friend, is a challenge. Throw all that in a live situation and you're in for some fun.

    The difference between a remix and a cover is that most cover bands don't claim the music to be their own and make money off the deal. They do it to play the music and get people in the doors to hear their crappy originals. I've been there.
    Not too often you see Opeth and Beethoven referred too in the same sentence lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK907 View Post
    I wouldn't say anyone can pick up a guitar and play. Trust me, I've tried to teach my wife. I've been playing guitar and bass for 15 years and drums for 8 years. I wouldn't consider myself any good. From a purely technical stand point I am a fairly clean player in most respects, but I could never write beautiful music like Opeth or Beethoven. I'm simply not creative or talented enough. That is why I never said that simply playing guitar makes it good music. I've seen and even been a member of plenty of bad bands. Now if you accomplish the skill it takes to play an instrument and make music people want to hear, THAT, my friend, is a challenge. Throw all that in a live situation and you're in for some fun.

    The difference between a remix and a cover is that most cover bands don't claim the music to be their own and make money off the deal. They do it to play the music and get people in the doors to hear their crappy originals. I've been there.
    Everything you said in that first paragraph only reinforces my point, that's exactly what i'm saying. "I wouldn't say anyone can pick up a guitar and play." Well I wouldn't say anybody can run a computer program and make music. There are only a very few truly talented electronic producers out there and they are NOT making money off of other people's music. And most artists only make remixes for fun, and some of them happen to get popular. Very few of them are making any money off of them.

    Replace the word "real instrument" with "computer program" and what you said is no less true. The REAL electronic artists, don't just get up on stage and press play, they mix the song live using sounds they have created.
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