Het question

[Salamander Rising]

I don't have an answer for what you 'should' pair her with, but here is a site that helped me grasp the whole het/codom/dom thing. You may already know about them, but I refer back to it regularly even-though I have a 'decent' understanding.

http://www.ballpython.ca/genetics.html

Between this site, the genetic wizard, and little bit of brain power, it has helped me figure out most of what I want to know.

Thank you!

[RichL]

Thank you!

No problem =)

[TheReptileEnthusiast]

For example, you could pick up a male pastel that is 100% het clown and have 1 in 8 odds at pastel clowns and 1 in 4 odds at normal clowns with each egg. If you hit the male pastel clown, hold him back and the next year have 1 in 4 odds at pastel clowns and 1 in 2 odds at normal clowns when bred to just het clown girls.

Of course, if you have the coin you could just start with a visual pastel clown male and start making pastel clowns right away. The point is, that female you picked up will never become obsolete because she has the potential to make nice babies each season. Males on the other hand are usually replaced by one of thier offspring with more genes each year since they can breed multiple girls.

Have at it, soon you will be computing the possible outcomes of pairings in your sleep and planning 3-4 seasons in advance. Welcome to the clown club, it is one of the most exciting recessive genes to be working with because there are so many combos that haven't been done yet. I'll stop now, I could ramble on for pages about clowns.

[Salamander Rising]

For example, you could pick up a male pastel that is 100% het clown and have 1 in 8 odds at pastel clowns and 1 in 4 odds at normal clowns with each egg. If you hit the male pastel clown, hold him back and the next year have 1 in 4 odds at pastel clowns and 1 in 2 odds at normal clowns when bred to just het clown girls.

Of course, if you have the coin you could just start with a visual pastel clown male and start making pastel clowns right away. The point is, that female you picked up will never become obsolete because she has the potential to make nice babies each season. Males on the other hand are usually replaced by one of thier offspring with more genes each year since they can breed multiple girls.

Have at it, soon you will be computing the possible outcomes of pairings in your sleep and planning 3-4 seasons in advance. Welcome to the clown club, it is one of the most exciting recessive genes to be working with because there are so many combos that haven't been done yet. I'll stop now, I could ramble on for pages about clowns.

I LOVE Clowns [and Pastels and all forms of the various "Bees"] so I think I will buy her.

I have no intentions of "inventing something amazing!"...I'd just enjoy breeding some of the things I personally like.

Even if nothing else pans out, I'll still have a nice, big sweet girl to cuddle.

Can't see the down side....

Thank you very much for explaining it to me in a way that I can understand.

[Salamander Rising]

For example, you could pick up a male pastel that is 100% het clown and have 1 in 8 odds at pastel clowns and 1 in 4 odds at normal clowns with each egg. If you hit the male pastel clown, hold him back and the next year have 1 in 4 odds at pastel clowns and 1 in 2 odds at normal clowns when bred to just het clown girls.

Of course, if you have the coin you could just start with a visual pastel clown male and start making pastel clowns right away. The point is, that female you picked up will never become obsolete because she has the potential to make nice babies each season. Males on the other hand are usually replaced by one of thier offspring with more genes each year since they can breed multiple girls.

Have at it, soon you will be computing the possible outcomes of pairings in your sleep and planning 3-4 seasons in advance. Welcome to the clown club, it is one of the most exciting recessive genes to be working with because there are so many combos that haven't been done yet. I'll stop now, I could ramble on for pages about clowns.

Okay, so I bought her and the other 100% Het clown female he had.
[couldn't pass up the "pair" price]

The original one has a very reduced, erratic pattern.
[virtually no "eyes" in the extremely "baroque" alien heads at all]

The second has alien heads and ovals/teardrops [whatever they're called] but they're quite pale and has very dark brown where the black should be and that dark brown is extremely blushed and interspersed with a weird opalescent/iridescent appearance.
[no, she's not about to shed...it's very different "look"]
One has produced Clowns after having been bred to a Pastel.
[?!?]

I don't think the other has been bred yet.

They both have very pale auburn-ish brown heads like a Pastel does.

They both also have a lot of blushing and flames.

Does any of that "mean" anything?

I will post photos after they've settled in and calmed down.

Right now they're resting [restlessly] in large sweater boxes in a dark warm place.

I have given them bowls of water and will let them be until they get used to being in a home.

I was also told the Pastel male I got had a "Lemon pastel" parent [dad, I think] and the "line" was something like "Zoloff".

Has anybody heard of that/him?

Googling that [probably misspelled] name just gave me a million websites on antidepressants and overcoming snake phobias.....