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Re: ** ball python industry going under????**
 Originally Posted by tejanastar
Thank you for your input. I started buying about 3yrs ago. I have a caramel albino that is breeding currently, a fire and spider and was given 3 normals, and still have the one normal I bought first that made me fall in love with Balls, plus a lesser, pinstripe, and 2 pastels. I am new at this and I understand that everything takes time. That is why I love the snakes because even if I don't make a living off of it, then at least I have a lot of animals that I love! I would like to get involved in the community as I just put my website up www.kurveballz.com and www.facebook.com/kurveballz but how does one get involved in a reptile community to become known? I have nothing to sell at the moment until early Spring time, what would I do to build up reputation?? I attend local Expos in my area, but not as a vendor as I have nothing available. Any ideas?? 
Reputation is something that comes by a combination of time around the industry and and animals produced and sold backed by stellar customer service, its not built over night. You also have to decide if you want a business or a hobby , if its a business that you want then you have to expect yourself to run it like a business.
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Lower-end Single gene "standard" morphs are falling in price, it happens in any business... Double genes are becoming the new single genes. In the end quality is still quality and is worth it though.
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Re: ** ball python industry going under????**
Would love to do it as a business, but can you imagine the taxes that you would pay?? I mean look at NERD, they must make a fortune and pay back a fortune in taxes. I'm all for the USA but dang, let a poor man get a break! lol
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Re: ** ball python industry going under????**
Originally Posted by tejanastar
Would love to do it as a business, but can you imagine the taxes that you would pay?? I mean look at NERD, they must make a fortune and pay back a fortune in taxes. I'm all for the USA but dang, let a poor man get a break! lol
LOL...I worked at NERD for nearly 10 years. Taxes aside, overhead at a big facility is mindblowing, not to mention the ins & outs of everyday business. It can be seriously crazy, and I have a lot of admiration for those who are able to maintain things on that level successfully, long-term.
Something else I learned from a decade @ a big facility, doing shows, the forums, all of it...there are more $#*! talkers in the "ball python industry/hobby" than there are ball pythons. True fact. It's shocking the number of people who run their mouths who have never even been near the morphs they like to trash talk.
Keep what you like, like what you keep, breed to fulfill your own goals, be realistic & you won't be left hanging. Never lose sight of what fascinates you about these snakes in the first place, and you'll find something every day that makes you love them even more.
And NEVER, no matter what, let someone who is talking smack take away from your enjoyment of your snakes. EVER. Their opinions are usually only as substantial as a fart in the wind. 
Good luck w/your projects!
K~
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Re: ** ball python industry going under????**
Originally Posted by Kara
LOL...I worked at NERD for nearly 10 years. Taxes aside, overhead at a big facility is mindblowing, not to mention the ins & outs of everyday business. It can be seriously crazy, and I have a lot of admiration for those who are able to maintain things on that level successfully, long-term.
Something else I learned from a decade @ a big facility, doing shows, the forums, all of it...there are more $#*! talkers in the "ball python industry/hobby" than there are ball pythons. True fact. It's shocking the number of people who run their mouths who have never even been near the morphs they like to trash talk.
Keep what you like, like what you keep, breed to fulfill your own goals, be realistic & you won't be left hanging. Never lose sight of what fascinates you about these snakes in the first place, and you'll find something every day that makes you love them even more.
And NEVER, no matter what, let someone who is talking smack take away from your enjoyment of your snakes. EVER. Their opinions are usually only as substantial as a fart in the wind.
Good luck w/your projects!
K~
Wow, very well put  Thank you so much for your advice in this matter. This has been a topic that I've been dealing with for some time now. Every time I go to this guys store here in Central Texas area, he is always laughing at me and talking crap about the Ball Python Morphs,etc. Its been going on for about a year now, once a week, and I finally decided to post on here and get a feel of what you guys all think. Thank you so much for putting my mind at ease! =)
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Re: ** ball python industry going under????**
Originally Posted by tejanastar
Wow, very well put Thank you so much for your advice in this matter. This has been a topic that I've been dealing with for some time now. Every time I go to this guys store here in Central Texas area, he is always laughing at me and talking crap about the Ball Python Morphs,etc. Its been going on for about a year now, once a week, and I finally decided to post on here and get a feel of what you guys all think. Thank you so much for putting my mind at ease! =)
 You bet hon! I'm from North-Central TX originally & have traveled every corner of the state in my field-herpin' quests. The mindset of local pet stores can be very discouraging because it's easy for the folks at such stores to be big minnows in a mudpuddle. Fortunately they AIN'T the bottom line for what's what w/ball pythons or any other species.
Good on ya for getting out & doing your homework. 
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Re: ** ball python industry going under????**
Originally Posted by tejanastar
Every time I go to this guys store here in Central Texas area, he is always laughing at me and talking crap about the Ball Python Morphs,etc.
Pet stores are a study. Sometimes I walk into one and find someone who is extremely knowlegable about snakes.
Sometimes I walk in and find someone who thinks that selling you a $3 rat makes him a flipping expert. 
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Looked at your website and looks nice. Just to let you know...poss yellow is not correct, it eiter is or isnt.
Good luck
~Rich
I tend to trust my snakes more than most people ... I know that my snakes may bite me... but you cant always tell with people.
Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
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Check out your website,looks good
1.0 pastel yellow belly 2.0 butter 1.0 normal(ghana) 0.1albino(high contrast)
0.1 pastel (het hypo) 1.0 normal(het albino)1.0 superpastel 0.1 dinker(ch import)
1.0 spider 1.0 pastel(het hypo) 1.0 mojave0.1 pastel calico
0.1 pinstripe 0.1 normal(het hypo) 0.1 normal
0.1 yellow belly 0.1 pastel jungle 1.0 ghost
0.1 Albino(high contrast)
0.1bumblebee
1.0 pied
0.1 caramel albino
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the morph market will never go under... It may drop some but thats it.
Know why?
Because BP's average only 4 or 5 eggs a year. They also require space, time, and investment.
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