** ball python industry going under????**

[Jessica Loesch]

Haha, no one will pay $5000 for a snake? I bet that 50% of the members here have.


Don't worry girl, don't get down, he's a jealous ball python hater and there are lots of them around.

Especially if he believes all of that poo ninny about 2012.

A lot of people hate ball pythons.

Keep on lovin

[janett]

Haha, no one will pay $5000 for a snake? I bet that 50% of the members here have.


Don't worry girl, don't get down, he's a jealous ball python hater and there are lots of them around.

Especially if he believes all of that poo ninny about 2012.

A lot of people hate ball pythons.

Keep on lovin

I have been noticing a lot of Ball Haters that I run into at the pet stores and stuff....its crazy. These are such beautiful animals.

Thanks for your encouragement!

[snakesRkewl]

Quality, reputation, quality, being out in the reptile community, quality, being friendly and helpful and having good customer service, and did I mention quality?

Doing projects that not everyone else is doing also helps sell, the market has plenty of people doing pastels and spiders and bee's.
Your caramel fire project for example, very nice and not everyone is in that project, kudos.

If you produce quality snakes and put them out at a fair price people will want them.
I produced 80 snakes this year and have about 12 left for sale, slow yes, dead? heck no

[ball-pythons]

seems like a weird guy to me in the pet store you're going too.. but never give up something you love doing because of somebody elses opinion.. and best of luck

[janett]

Thanks you guys. I really love the fire gene as it brightens up the morphs nicely. I want to produce beautiful, great quality snakes with a great reputation. I just started up my website. www.kurveballz.com and I have facebook too www.facebook/kurveballz

I am excited. I love Balls and I love people...so customer service with quality BP is all me!

Thanks everyone for the support!

[iCandiBallPythons]

You wont see the ball market go under in your life time, if anything this industry as a whole is growing every year.
Total U.S. Pet Industry Expenditures
Year Billion

2011 $50.84 Est.

2010 $48.35 Actual

2009 $45.5

2008 $43.2

2007 $41.2

2006 $38.5

2005 $36.3

2004 $34.4

2003 $32.4

2002 $29.5

2001 $28.5

1998 $23

1996 $21

1994 $17
Number of U.S. Households that Own a Pet (millions)

Bird 5.7

Cat 38.9

Dog 46.3

Equine 2.4

Freshwater Fish 11.9

Saltwater Fish 0.7

Reptile 4.6

Small Animal 5.0
Reptile popularity and purchases are growing every year

[Simple Man]

Is the market crashing on common single gene snakes? Probably. It's a simple issue of supply and demand. That doesn't reflect the multigene and recessive animals though. For everyone person that joins the hobby, another leaves. People think it's a "get rich quick" scheme or something and they buy furiously and then exit just as furiously when the struggle to sell single gene subpar animals in a handful of weeks. This is especially bad when someone has no reputation, has invested no time into the community, and buys and then breeds anything that's cheap. Like all things you get what you put into it.

Regards,

B

[janett]

You wont see the ball market go under in your life time, if anything this industry as a whole is growing every year.
Total U.S. Pet Industry Expenditures
Year Billion

2011 $50.84 Est.

2010 $48.35 Actual

2009 $45.5

2008 $43.2

2007 $41.2

2006 $38.5

2005 $36.3

2004 $34.4

2003 $32.4

2002 $29.5

2001 $28.5

1998 $23

1996 $21

1994 $17
Number of U.S. Households that Own a Pet (millions)

Bird 5.7

Cat 38.9

Dog 46.3

Equine 2.4

Freshwater Fish 11.9

Saltwater Fish 0.7

Reptile 4.6

Small Animal 5.0
Reptile popularity and purchases are growing every year

Wow, very informative. Thank you. People find out what I do, as far as keeping them and breeding and right away I get the same questions, "Why on earth would you do that? They are so gross!" or "How can you stand being with them? Eeewww" or "Do you not think its dangerous to have your 5 yr old live in that house with those snakes? Did you not see what happened in Flordia??" (yeah I LOVE that one) all of these I am able to answer or can give them a little, "in your face" reply. lol However, when someone tells me, "They sell morphs so cheap at Expos, too many people are breeding, it will be like breeding dogs and cats in a few years. No one will pay good money for them. the price will drop, you will lose all your investment,etc." Well, thats when I don't know what to say.

Thank you for your information. Very knowledgeable!

[janett]

Is the market crashing on common single gene snakes? Probably. It's a simple issue of supply and demand. That doesn't reflect the multigene and recessive animals though. For everyone person that joins the hobby, another leaves. People think it's a "get rich quick" scheme or something and they buy furiously and then exit just as furiously when the struggle to sell single gene subpar animals in a handful of weeks. This is especially bad when someone has no reputation, has invested no time into the community, and buys and then breeds anything that's cheap. Like all things you get what you put into it.

Regards,

B

Thank you for your input. I started buying about 3yrs ago. I have a caramel albino that is breeding currently, a fire and spider and was given 3 normals, and still have the one normal I bought first that made me fall in love with Balls, plus a lesser, pinstripe, and 2 pastels. I am new at this and I understand that everything takes time. That is why I love the snakes because even if I don't make a living off of it, then at least I have a lot of animals that I love! I would like to get involved in the community as I just put my website up www.kurveballz.com and www.facebook.com/kurveballz but how does one get involved in a reptile community to become known? I have nothing to sell at the moment until early Spring time, what would I do to build up reputation?? I attend local Expos in my area, but not as a vendor as I have nothing available. Any ideas??

[Simple Man]

Thank you for your input. I started buying about 3yrs ago. I have a caramel albino that is breeding currently, a fire and spider and was given 3 normals, and still have the one normal I bought first that made me fall in love with Balls, plus a lesser, pinstripe, and 2 pastels. I am new at this and I understand that everything takes time. That is why I love the snakes because even if I don't make a living off of it, then at least I have a lot of animals that I love! I would like to get involved in the community as I just put my website up www.kurveballz.com and www.facebook.com/kurveballz but how does one get involved in a reptile community to become known? I have nothing to sell at the moment until early Spring time, what would I do to build up reputation?? I attend local Expos in my area, but not as a vendor as I have nothing available. Any ideas??

Participate on the various forums. Make friends. Give advice to people less experienced than you. Chat reptiles. Showoff your animals. I could go on... it's all about what you want to put into it. I've met a lot of really good people online and have made a lot of friends. I have a few friends I talk snakes with daily. Where I live there isn't a huge reptile scene like some parts of the US.

Regards,

B