Thankyou soo much guys that JKR pro tips is awesome had no idea that i needed to feel for follicles so the whole lock as far as i can tell was a wash whe is Very large so i SHOULD feel the follicles and i don't so i'll keep her off the heat (was told by a breeder buddy that it would help... not sure if its help the lock or help the follicles develop) and kepp feeling for them unless i'm still doing it wrong lol my wife says a lot "please tell him (me) or he (i) will never learn.. he's clueless most days"