boy it's tough to sell possible het females!

[loonunit]

save the females until next year... then sell them with a 2012 visual male. you will get a LOT of money.

Yeah, that's an idea. Though I'd get a lot of money for a 2012 visual male ANYWAY...

[loonunit]

How concerned are people about unrelated siblings? One potential problem with selling my poss het girls with any visuals I produce this coming year is that they'll be full siblings. I certainly prefer unrelated pairings myself.

[Highline Reptiles South]

I guess I could add OBO to the classifieds? And offer to guarantee genetics.

Pretty tough to guarantee a "maybe". I myself won't mess w a possible het. the pairing idea is the best one i've read here though. Good luck.

[loonunit]

Pretty tough to guarantee a "maybe". I myself won't mess w a possible het. the pairing idea is the best one i've read here though. Good luck.

Right, best I can "guarantee" is that their parents really were hets, and there really was a visual in the clutch. And... they kinda look orange-y? But it's still a 1 in 3 chance they're just normals.

On the other hand, you can often get a handful of possible het females for the same price as a single 100% het female. If they all prove out, that's a terrific deal. And some people seem to enjoy the slot-machine-and-blackjack thrill of proving out females.

[Mike Cavanaugh]

How concerned are people about unrelated siblings? One potential problem with selling my poss het girls with any visuals I produce this coming year is that they'll be full siblings. I certainly prefer unrelated pairings myself.

Educated buyers couldn't care less.

[mainbutter]

How concerned are people about unrelated siblings?

Me? Not at all.

[Virus]

Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned placing them in an ad with a visual. Well your visual is a holdback, right?

Why not put up a picture of the sibling holdback, and put "sold" under the picture? People would be more inclined to see a garuntee of the them being poss hets.

[Rat160]

I will never attempt to breed anything that can have an outcome of poss hets. If I want something that bad I will save up and buy it. Unless it is 100% het and I can guarantee the het then I wont mess with it. I would never personally buy a poss het but if I did again it doesnt matter what guarantee you gave me id be going to the most reputable breeder and pay $hundreds more for it from them. Nothing against you I just dont mess with poss. It already takes long enough to get breeders going and then to add a chance of spending all that time and money on a poss normal... no thanks.

my .02

[Don]

I will never attempt to breed anything that can have an outcome of poss hets. If I want something that bad I will save up and buy it. Unless it is 100% het and I can guarantee the het then I wont mess with it. I would never personally buy a poss het but if I did again it doesnt matter what guarantee you gave me id be going to the most reputable breeder and pay $hundreds more for it from them. Nothing against you I just dont mess with poss. It already takes long enough to get breeders going and then to add a chance of spending all that time and money on a poss normal... no thanks.

my .02

I used to think this way, but changed when I looked at it realistically. I have a bumblebee 100% het AX. I just picked up at a very good price (pretty much the cost of just the base morph) two female spiders 66% het AX. I also have a Pastel AX and a female AX. So, I've got a male (100% het) and two visual females. He can easily handle two more ladies. That is why I picked up the 66% hets.

Since I already have rack space available and raise my own food, it doesn't cost me very much to raise up the two 66% AX spiders. Should they not prove out, then they will at lease produce spiders and pastels that I will sell to pay for the moms and I can the sell the moms off as proven Spider breeders. Thus no real loss and maybe a little bit of profit. Now, suppose one of those 66% AX proves out and throws an AX Bumblebee or two - jackpot! Also, once one of them proves out, I have a steady breeder that is 100% het AX who will produce year after year.

If you have rack space and food then what is the harm in trying to prove out some possible hets?

[loonunit]

Earlier in the thread, someone mentioned placing them in an ad with a visual. Well your visual is a holdback, right?

Why not put up a picture of the sibling holdback, and put "sold" under the picture? People would be more inclined to see a garuntee of the them being poss hets.

Oh, I did. I didn't say "sold", but I did put a picture of that visual in the ad. And you're right: the one phone inquiry I have gotten, it was because of the gorgeous visual.

Next time I post it, I might actually include a picture of the pipping eggs, too. So you can see I really did hatch what I claimed to hatch.