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    so now what is he gonna be criticized forever?
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    Re: Toffee not a Banana...Mistaken Identity Oops!

    Quote Originally Posted by python_addict View Post
    so now what is he gonna be criticized forever?
    Did You read the OP? He posted pics of a toffee labeled as a banana and then tried slinging dirt on the banana project. All of these posts are in response to HIS post. Nobody just dredged up old stuff to gripe about.

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    Make sure you know what you're talking about before you jump in and try to defend

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    Re: Toffee not a Banana...Mistaken Identity Oops!

    Quote Originally Posted by python_addict View Post
    wow so harsh! geez doesnt anyone think it could have been a mistake?? unless there is a confession i wouldnt tell the world your petty assumptions
    My entire post was based on the extensive reading I've done. I don't know him personally, I've never interacted with him, and am not judging him or slinging mud. I simply summarized what I had learned about the situation so that other people could understand without having to do the amount of reading I did.

    If it seems harsh, it's because he did some pretty bad things. It's hard to say "Well he ripped off a bunch of people and lied to his customers" and make it sound flattering.
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    Re: Toffee not a Banana...Mistaken Identity Oops!

    Hey Guys,

    I first want to start by saying sorry. Clearly my post was offensive, self serving and in poor judgement. My intention was to support a project that I am very, very passionate about and obviously I went too far. Forums are available to us all to share knowledge and experiences not to self promote and abuse, which I am gulity of and for that I am very sorry.

    My post came across spitful, which has been fuelled by all the rumors and untruths about me and my company. I should have addressed them back when they first came to light but I choose to ignore them assuming our impeccable track record for nearly a decade would defend itself. Clearly that was not enough based on the posts I have seen within this thread. Ball Pythons make up a small component of our business. We sell a wide selection of popular reptiles to customers all over the world and have always strived for excellence and honesty regardless of the rumors. That is the truth! We have a long track record of providing premium quality reptiles and serving our customers with honesty and integrity and proof of that comes from the hundreds upon hundreds of happy satisfied customers worldwide.

    We sold reptiles long before the Toffee project came along and they always proved out to be exactly what we guaranteed and they will always continue to do so. My point is we have a track record of being honest and I have worked long and hard to maintain that and it's not fair that someone can post a rumor and all that hard work and history is thrown out the window. That simply is not right. We have never and I mean never sold an animal that was not what we guaranteed. We have a long track record of honesty and that should speak louder than random posts from people that don't know me, have never spoken to me or dealt with me.

    I am guilty of a bad self serving offensive post and I sincerely apologize for that. This is my business, my livelihood but most importantly it is my passion. I take this very seriously and to see my name and companies reputation come under fire after working nearly a decade with an impeccable reputation is not right. I let my passion and ego get the best of me and I have promissed myself as well as my staff that I'll stay clear of the forums from now on.

    Thank you for reading this long winded appeal for forgiveness.

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    Re: Toffee not a Banana...Mistaken Identity Oops!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Urban Python View Post
    My point is we have a track record of being honest and I have worked long and hard to maintain that and it's not fair that someone can post a rumor and all that hard work and history is thrown out the window. That simply is not right. We have never and I mean never sold an animal that was not what we guaranteed. We have a long track record of honesty and that should speak louder than random posts from people that don't know me, have never spoken to me or dealt with me.
    I have seen many posts by people who DO know you and HAVE dealt with you, so I do not believe these are just "random posts by people who don't know you."

    I'm not personally invested in the Toffee project, and it's well out of my price range for now, so I'm just responding out of curiosity.

    I am interested to know whether you plan on addressing the issue with you selling people Toffee/Hets and not telling them they are compatible with Albinos? That just doesn't seem like an honest thing to do, or like an accurate representation of the animals.

    I saw on another forum that you said you did not intend to discuss this on public forums any longer, but I am hopeful you will reply. In my opinion, the best way to clear your name would be to discuss these "rumors" in public rather than discussing them privately.
    Last edited by meowmeowkazoo; 10-17-2011 at 03:01 PM.
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    [Boa imperator]
    1.0 Hypo 100% Het Leopard/66% Het Albino (Darcy)
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