If it's too good to be true....

[Chris633]

Okay, I have to chime in and back up Buddha. I'm in Jersey too, and when I started looking for morphs, I found very little in NJ in the way of breeders. I did my research and looked on fauna and kingsnake and here, basically just trying to find someone local where I can go and touch and see the animals, but there really, truly was nothing like there is in other states (god, I wish I lived in CA, FL or TX!!). I did EVENTUALLY find a random person here and there who happened to be selling something and I ran across a breeder who's somewhat local. But even that was difficult and complicated and they don't always have what I'm looking for.

But that ties in directly to what Mike said - if someone were local, I'd happily pay a little over market to avoid shipping nervousness and to actually go see the animals. Through bp.net, I've managed to network with a lot of NJ people, which is fantastic, so hopefully we can get something started here, lol!

i think mike thinks because were he lives the market is good that it is like that every were,but it is not,i too have connected with a few folks from nj that feels the same as i do the bp market around us is just almost none existent,if it wasnt for shows or online vendors i wouldnt even be on this forum.
I already stated i would rather deal locally and i would pay a little more but it would have to be what i wanted,most breeders i ran into had spiders,normals,pastels,and black pastels and i did run into a breeder that had one fire but it was a male and i really am looking for a nice female.
so in our area i doubt very seriously that there is a big market for 1200 dollar bps.
I am just glad this is a hobby for me and not a way of life because if it was in this area that would be a rough road to travel.

Ok, I have to jump in here as a NJ BPer. I do believe that the NJ market is stronger than it appears. There are some really good BP breeders here who I think just keep a low or non-existent online profile. I've gotten all of my BPs from local breeders.

I've gotten 11 out of 14 of my snakes (i have 2 new BP's on hold ) from Tom Agosta/8 Legs Plus who is right in central NJ. Two of my snakes I got through Tom from this guy Steve who is in NNJ. I got one of my snakes from Frank Martin who I believe is also central NJ (I grabbed it at the White Plains show). I really can't say enough good things about Tom and the quality animals he produces (BP's, colubrids, spiders). He'll be at Hamburg on Saturday. Definitely grab one of his cards.