Possible RI/Stress?? Need input

[snake lab]

The vet i use is one of if not the best in the country and hes told me lower humidity and raise temps. Vet stahl is money

[mpkeelee]

Alrighty then. I apologize to the OP and to all the others that I have told to raise humidity. Guess I need to look for a better vet cuz mine isn't as good as they r said to be

[Animals As Leaders]

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Why would you lower humidity when any animal has a RI? Dry air increases the growth rate of bacteria, and viruses? Hence why when people are sick we use a humidifier. What is the benefit of lowering humidity again?

[rabernet]

The vet i use is one of if not the best in the country and hes told me lower humidity and raise temps. Vet stahl is money

Then you know that Dr Scott Stahl doesn't agree with deciding the course of medication without a swab first, because some strains are resistant to Baytril, and and Baytril shouldn't be the default drug recommended all the time.

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[jbean7916]

I agree with raising humidity for an RI. by raising temps and humidity you are creating a better environment for the snake. Can you imagine having a stuffy nose and being in a dry hot room? You need the humidity to help break up the mucus.

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[Rusky]

I didn't think about something stuck in there - and she did have a tiny little piece of stuck shed on her nose along with the eye cap. Will the stuck shed that's causing the whistle just be right there on top of the nose/scales like any stuck shed?

It would just be a piece around the nose holes. This will either cause them to sound like they're hissing because there is something blocking their nose hole or it could sound like wheezing.

If you suspect a nose shed or if the eye cap isn't coming off I would put the snake in a damp pillow case for 30 minutes. While trying to get out it will rub its face against the case and rub the shed off.

[devildog_dk]

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Why would you lower humidity when any animal has a RI? Dry air increases the growth rate of bacteria, and viruses? Hence why when people are sick we use a humidifier. What is the benefit of lowering humidity again?

Isn't bacteria the other way around? Bacteria colonies need moisture to reproduce I always thought, so yes raising humidity will help break up the mucus but it would also help the bacteria colonies reproduce... just from what I remember in high school biology anyway.

It would just be a piece around the nose holes. This will either cause them to sound like they're hissing because there is something blocking their nose hole or it could sound like wheezing.

If you suspect a nose shed or if the eye cap isn't coming off I would put the snake in a damp pillow case for 30 minutes. While trying to get out it will rub its face against the case and rub the shed off.

We're monitoring them closely right now before we do anything. Tonight we'll get pictures of each and you all can see.

[snake lab]

Then you know that Dr Scott Stahl doesn't agree with deciding the course of medication without a swab first, because some strains are resistant to Baytril, and and Baytril shouldn't be the default drug recommended all the time.

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Yes i know he likes to culture and swab first. Baytril is a go to in my arsenal when i get a resp issue and it has worked like a charm over the years for me. As far as humidity goes. Humidity affects humans differently then snakes. Humidity for humans help in breaking up flem to be able to cough it up but it doesnt male the infection go away. A snake cant hack up the phlegm like we can. Higher heat and lower humidity along with medicatio. Will clear up a resp infection faster. You have to jump on it as soon as you notice an issue cause if it goes too far it can reach the point of no return pretty quickly.

[Daybreaker]

As promised, here are the pics taken a couple hours ago (DUW).

Eyecap one (nose shed is gone and we didn't hear any whistle):





Here is the other that had me (more) concerned, though even though she still has the bubbles/mucus looking stuff we didn't hear any whistles, wheezes, or feel/hear that rumbling within her body when we had her out:

[rabernet]

Yes i know he likes to culture and swab first. Baytril is a go to in my arsenal when i get a resp issue and it has worked like a charm over the years for me. As far as humidity goes. Humidity affects humans differently then snakes. Humidity for humans help in breaking up flem to be able to cough it up but it doesnt male the infection go away. A snake cant hack up the phlegm like we can. Higher heat and lower humidity along with medicatio. Will clear up a resp infection faster. You have to jump on it as soon as you notice an issue cause if it goes too far it can reach the point of no return pretty quickly.

I just found it ironic that you were quoting him in regards to humidity level, yet you weren't completely following what he recommends. He also recommends 30 days of treatment, not 14 as you advised. But he frowns upon having Baytril as the default go to treatment protocol and not testing first to decide the best course of treatment.

I suspect that he also probably frowns upon people without a veterinary degree prescribing a treatment on an online forum too.

No argument from me that he's the best there is, in the US, if not the world.