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    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jessica Loesch View Post
    I vaguely remember learning that in high school ....
    So then if you have it W linked, that would make sense.

    But my question is, how then are males able to produce more female bananas?
    I don't believe it is a sex linked gene. It just doesn't add up for me that it is.

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    Yeah, it really doesn't. That's why I asked that last question, because it contradicts the sex linked theme.

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    wow ive never read a thread where somebody is so conceded... somebody thinks they are a lot cooler than they actually are lol like if you want to share your opinion then give it if not im not gonna lose sleep over it.. who cares

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    I agree, either share it or keep it to yourself..but don't wave it in peoples' faces and wait to get worshipped and begged for the information.
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    i mean seriously... who cares.. oh your sooo cool you have info your not telling us.. haha what a joke, get a life buddy

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    I'm not saying that bananas are sex-linked, but hypothetically to answer the previous question about how to get female banana offspring from male banana breeders:

    If the banana trait was W-linked recessive, much like some human color blindness is X-linked recessive:

    ZW female bananas are essentially hets

    WW males are essentially homozygotes.

    Both are just 'banana' phenotype.

    banana male to a normal female, ALL the females would be bananas, as all would receive the banana trait from the male.

    The problem lies in producing banana males from a pairing that does not have a banana male.. which must have been done if people don't think that the trait is w-linked.

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    Here's soemthing interesting I learned with goats. Perhaps something similar applies to snakes.

    When a doe cycles, she's only fertile for 24 hours. When she's bred early in her heat cycle, you're going to predominately get female kids. However, the later you wait to breed her (or the later she lets the buck breed her) the chance of male offspring goes up. The first year that my parents bred the goats, we pen bred everyone. As soon as we noticed the doe wagging her tail, she was put in with a buck. Consequently, we had about 80% females born. Now, there's bucks that are called "doe makers" because they have a female to male ratio with their kids. I'm not entirely sure if there's something genetic going on or if the bucks just woo over the does at the right time.

    Maybe someone needs to take a bunch of normals and just experiment with different set ups. If when cooling, cool the prospective pair together so they have the exact same temperatures which means as soon as the female is receptive, the male can latch on. The point is, experiment. We all know that husbandry isn't set in stone; everyone has their own methods. Even the pros learn new things each year.

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    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.

    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaB View Post
    Are you talking about the Daytona show? Because there were lots of bannanas there. But i did see one Candy witch looked amazing.
    It was a yearling female and it was awesome.



    Quote Originally Posted by The Hedgehog View Post
    These "troll threads" sure hook a lot of leeetle fishies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Green View Post
    BG, your a silly dude. I know exactly how to get a male.....

    ....make a phone call and write a big check(don't forget all those zeros). Then hope the wife doesn't complain about the hardwood floors she's been wanting for years.
    Of course it will be the breeders last one....until the check clears anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by zach_24_90 View Post
    wow ive never read a thread where somebody is so conceded... somebody thinks they are a lot cooler than they actually are lol like if you want to share your opinion then give it if not im not gonna lose sleep over it.. who cares
    Quote Originally Posted by thewesterngate View Post
    I agree, either share it or keep it to yourself..but don't wave it in peoples' faces and wait to get worshipped and begged for the information.
    Quote Originally Posted by zach_24_90 View Post
    i mean seriously... who cares.. oh your sooo cool you have info your not telling us.. haha what a joke, get a life buddy
    And people wonder why BG goes MIA for so long. What would BG ever do without his new fans he's never met yet? Unfortunately it takes longer and longer nowadays. His legend is too big.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
    Here's soemthing interesting I learned with goats. Perhaps something similar applies to snakes.

    When a doe cycles, she's only fertile for 24 hours. When she's bred early in her heat cycle, you're going to predominately get female kids. However, the later you wait to breed her (or the later she lets the buck breed her) the chance of male offspring goes up. The first year that my parents bred the goats, we pen bred everyone. As soon as we noticed the doe wagging her tail, she was put in with a buck. Consequently, we had about 80% females born. Now, there's bucks that are called "doe makers" because they have a female to male ratio with their kids. I'm not entirely sure if there's something genetic going on or if the bucks just woo over the does at the right time.

    Maybe someone needs to take a bunch of normals and just experiment with different set ups. If when cooling, cool the prospective pair together so they have the exact same temperatures which means as soon as the female is receptive, the male can latch on. The point is, experiment. We all know that husbandry isn't set in stone; everyone has their own methods. Even the pros learn new things each year.

    There's no such thing as a "Desert" goat is there? If so...you might have some real valuable info there.

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    lol! This is quite interesting.

    BG you sure like egging people on huh?

    I sure would like to hear about who has this puzzle solved, bananas are pretty sweet, but I had pretty much counted them out of future projects for me!

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    Re: Banana male puzzle solved.

    Quote Originally Posted by purplemuffin View Post
    lol! This is quite interesting.

    BG you sure like egging people on huh?

    I sure would like to hear about who has this puzzle solved, bananas are pretty sweet, but I had pretty much counted them out of future projects for me!

    Aren't Big Gunns threads and posts ALWAYS "interesting"?

    Don't count them out....they are still awesome. It will take a while, but the price will eventually come down if that's your issue. Everything comes down sooner or later. The lower prices seem to have more people interested than ever.

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