Small tubs out of necessity or because of space?

[CoolioTiffany]

I personally do not think any 800g Ball should be kept in a 15qt tub.

One of my normal girls is just around 900g and I'm going to put her straight in a 41qt.

As my Spider BP got around 400g I had to switch him out of his 15qt. He simply did not seem to have the correct amount of space. I love giving my Balls some sort of space to be able to stretch out and move around in. I personally like to go with this (includes only a dish):

New hatched - 200g : 6qt
200g-400g : 12-15qt
400g-600g : 28qt
600g-800g : 32-34qt
800g - 1000g+ : 40qt (males), 41qt (females)

Although in my tubs, I always include a hide except for the adults.

[EverEvolvingExotics]

I wish I could find a way that dividers that actually worked. I have tried a few different designs in the past and failed miserably.

[llovelace]

Most people, once their snake reaches 700-800g, they are moved up to a 32qt tub

[EverEvolvingExotics]

Cooliotiffany, do you find that having an extra 1qt for females is needed, or a extra 4-6 qts gives enough room for an extra couple hundred grams? Or are these the setups you had around? I don't think I would have the resources necessary to use a system with specific nature. Thank you for the great guidelines, that is more of what I thinking with my new arrivals, with some minor changes of your guidelines.

[EverEvolvingExotics]

There was a recent poll that asked a similar question, it seemed most people voted that they kept their snakes in 15 qt tubs up to 600-1000 grams which was surprising. I provide a lot of hides though. That may be a reason why all of mine have always eaten. When they are small in a 32qt tub they have 4 small hides, as they grow I switch to 2 appropriate sized hides...I don't know, works for me but I would like to save space especially if it works better. I just haven't needed to worry too much about it yet until now.

[CoolioTiffany]

Cooliotiffany, do you find that having an extra 1qt for females is needed, or a extra 4-6 qts gives enough room for an extra couple hundred grams? Or are these the setups you had around? I don't think I would have the resources necessary to use a system with specific nature. Thank you for the great guidelines, that is more of what I thinking with my new arrivals, with some minor changes of your guidelines.

Ah well, 41qt is basically what I would use for any adult female. the 40qt is what I have my oldest male in and I like how it works so far. Although, even a 34qt or so wouldn't be bad for an adult male.

Sorry if it seemed I was being strict on my guidelines for how I house my Balls, it was just to show how I feel about housing Balls of a certain weight and what I usually go by. I believe that they should have some space to be able to move around in even if they do like confined areas. But anyone can do whatever they love and I certainly respect that, just don't think an 800g Ball would look comfortable in such a confined space.

Hope you find what you like best for your new guys, and hoping to see photos of their arrival!

[EverEvolvingExotics]

I don't think I could keep even a 600 gram ball in a little 15qt tub. Sometimes I feel my 500 gram hypo looks kind of big in a 32qt. I have a 100% het pied female that I put straight into a 41qt with 2 hides at 650 grams. In a year she has grown to almost 1400 grams, I think she liked the extra space...

[EverEvolvingExotics]

Oh, and always photos are to be provided!

[CoolioTiffany]

I don't think I could keep even a 600 gram ball in a little 15qt tub. Sometimes I feel my 500 gram hypo looks kind of big in a 32qt. I have a 100% het pied female that I put straight into a 41qt with 2 hides at 650 grams. In a year she has grown to almost 1400 grams, I think she liked the extra space...

Man that is a crazy weight gain!! I do feel that the smaller space slows down the growth of the snake. Which is why my Spider and Pastel also seem to be on the smaller side at almost two years of age. Just a few months ago I switched them to larger tubs from being in 15qts for a long while. And just because you're talking about larger tubs, I may even consider looking at some new tubs soon LOL.

[WingedWolfPsion]

In my experience many individual ball pythons will be fine in a big bin...but some will not. Because they virtually ALL appear happy in smaller bins, there really is no reason to move them into bigger ones until they're of a size to make use of it.

I have had exactly 1 hatchling over 4 years of breeding that insisted on being put into a larger bin before he would eat. Go figure--they ARE individuals.