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    When I have used PAM in the past, I have always removed my snake from the enclosure, cleaned the entire enclosure as normal and then treated the enclosure with PAM. After I let the PAM dry completely I would then put in the new substrate and treat it as well with PAM. I would let this completely dry and once it had aired out, I would put my snake back in. Works great and have never had any trouble at all using this method Love PAM!
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    Re: After treating with PAM

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post

    I ve seen that some people after they are finished with the treatment of their enclosure, they throw out the substrate(we are talking about loose sustrate like aspen), and replace it with new one so the snake doesnt ingest treated substrate.

    Also, I ve seen people treating the substrate and not changing it, as people say, once PAM is dry, it is safe for the snake.
    This would, offcourse be easier and faster to do, if it isnt dangerous to the snake that is.

    I am interested what you do when there is mite problem already going on, and what you do with PAM just to prevent it.

    As I am getting 4 new enclosures, I was thinking about lightly spraying the substrate and whiping the vents and leaving it to dry for 3-4 weeks before putting any animals in there. But I would like to do the simmilar thing with my old ones also.

    So what would your advice be?
    Mix the substrate in a large container.

    Spray it down.

    Cover it for an hour.

    Let it air for an hour or so.

    Place in cage.

    Don't spend another minute worrying about silly things like having your snake eat a piece of substrate with dried PAM on it.
    Last edited by Skiploder; 07-29-2011 at 09:46 AM.

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    Hello,

    PAM should be sprayed onto DRY substrate. Allow a half hour-an hour for it to completely dry before putting your snake back. As a general rule, if it smells like PAM still, it's not dry. You can even put a fan near it. Don't worry, it won't blow the PAM away!

    Once the PAM is dry, you can put your snake back and check back in about 3 weeks. In 3 weeks do a followup spray just to be sure.

    While your snake is out, give it a bath in some warm (NOT HOT) water, with a few drops of iodine. This will kill the mites (they can't swim) and will also relieve your snake. The iodine acts as a mild disinfectant. Also, take a Q-tip and gently roll it over your snakes eyes, heat pits and its neck to help pull off any mites that burrowed into these spots.

    During the 3 weeks that your snake is in there (after the spray) try not to bother it too much. Being eaten alive is stressful and painful, and the less you handle it the faster it will heal!

    And as far as your snake digesting PAM - don't worry about that. If you ARE worried, feed it elsewhere, or lay down some paper towel over the substrate and then feed it to ensure it doesn't ingest it. Do not remove the substrate after spraying it, otherwise you'll be removing the PAM therefore wasting your time

    Goodluck!

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    Thank you guys for quick response.

    @Skiploder
    Yeah thats a good idea

    @rickyRRE
    I was thinking about that..If you get rid of the treated substrate, you lose the PAM with it..its logical..but I know I ve seen some people say that they do it.
    Since Im a bit paranoid around my snakes, I would rather be changing the sustrate x number of times then let something happen to them

    But yeah, the thing that interested me the most was - if I could feed on already treated substrate (when its dried out offcourse).

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    Re: After treating with PAM

    Quote Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Don't spend another minute worrying about silly things like having your snake eat a piece of substrate with dried PAM on it.
    ^^^

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