Constrictor constrictor?

[Boanerges]

Out of curiosity in New Jersey you can own a boa without needing a permit if it is a Constrictor constrictor. It's been awhile since I was in the mix of boas (not that I ever really was) so I have a couple questions again. Now I take it a Constrictor constrictor would be a BCC? Someone school me again on the difference between a BCI (boa constrictor imperator) and a BCC real quick? Give me some examples of which boas are actually BCI and BCC also please. Like a red tail is a? A Argentine is a? Thanks to anyone who can feed my curiosity and help me figure it all out again...

[llovelace]

The differences between the two subspecies are minimal.
Bcc were the original "redtailed boas", however several decades ago dealers began applying the same name to the Colombian boas in order to squeeze some extra money out of their sales, as "true redtails" tended to have a nicer appearance to them.

Bcc sometimes display a brighter tail colouration, more colouration throughout their body (silvers and/or pinks and/or purples), shaplier saddles that may have more contrast, and less than 22 saddles.
Bci may have more or less than 22 saddles, which makes this method of identification unreliable. Bci have a much quicker growth rate than Bcc do and can easily attain lengths of 6' or more by their second birthday. They generally have the same maintenance requirements.

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[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

That's the funniest law I've ever heard for snakes! I wonder if they are aware that BCC often grow larger and sometimes have a worse temperament than the BCI?

Lol!!

But yes, the first post is correct. Suriname's and Guyana's are Boa Constrictor Constrictors. Then you have BCI and all their color morphs. Then there are a bunch of other sub species such as..
BCI
BCS
BCL
BCA


Check out Vin Russo's site for quite a bit of info on these.

http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/

[Nektu]

Interesting facts. So what would a rainbow boa fall under?

[Boanerges]

Interesting facts. So what would a rainbow boa fall under?

I have no clue personally - lol. I am still quite a bit confused with the whole thing especially in regards to NJ law. If I were to ever get a boa again in NJ I would probably just add it to an existing permit or get a permit for it by itself just to be safe. I guess you could always ask fish and wild life and ask which ones exactly don't need a permit but I don't know if I would just trust someones word from there over the phone on which ones don't need one just in case (since the area seems a bit grey). I might take a signed statement from someone there in higher authority but I don't know if they would do that, it also seems like a lot of trouble and I don't know how well that would go over if I ever needed it as proof that I was told I didn't need a permit for that particular boa. And I imagine they could still say guess what "so and so" was wrong and you do need a permit that note means nothing. Since I am not getting a boa or thinking about getting one, it doesn't really matter too much to me personally but I was just being a dork I guess and feeding my curiousity about the whole thing

[MikeV]

BCI - indicates that the bao came from a certain habitat that is differen't to that of BCC boas

BCC - means the above, but also shows differen't saddle shape, color ect ect.

Usually its very easy to identify a BCC from a BCI

BCC include - Peruvians, Suriname's, Guyana just to name a few

BCI include - Colombian, Nicaraguan, and one other which I cannot remember, again there are more though

BCC are generally harder to keep. They are much more difficult to feed properly and they are not as hardy as BCI (or so ive read, no personal experience with BCC boas though)

Mainly, I've read that you have to offer them much smaller meals than usual or they will regurg.

They also require slightly lower temps than BCI

Here are some pics to show you the difference:

My Colombian BCI Powder -




Peruvian BCC (looks kinda like Powder eh!?! That is interesting) -





Those are just two examples, its good comparison so you can see the tail pattern difference and tail colour difference, all that Jazz.

Hope some of this info has helped!

[SpartaDog]

I checked the NJ Fish and Wildlife website not too long ago, and if I remember correctly, "boa constrictor" was listed under species that did not require a permit (why they don't but balls and leos do, I'll never understand). There was no specification of subspecies. Other boas such as KSBs, BRBs, and others were listed separately.

[SamuraiZr0]

Bcc tend to be larger and they are further south on the map than say boa constrictor imperator. nic boas would be BCI where as Guyanan boas would be BCC. the usual rule of thumb seems to be . the further south the larger the snake. BCI tend to be part of the Dwarf boas while BCC tend to be what are called TRUE RED TAILS. they occupy territory of the amazon basin. BCI however range from mexico down through south america and some islands. the islands also contain sub species such as BCS.

[gold217]

Interesting facts. So what would a rainbow boa fall under?

Rainbow boa: Epicrates Cenchira
Brazilian Rainbow: Epicrates Cenchira Cenchira
Peruvian Rainbow: Epicrates Cenchira Gaigei
Columbian Rainbow: Epicrates Cenchira Maurus

[SamuraiZr0]

Rainbow boa: Epicrates Cenchira
Brazilian Rainbow: Epicrates Cenchira Cenchira
Peruvian Rainbow: Epicrates Cenchira Gaigei
Columbian Rainbow: Epicrates Cenchira Maurus

Great info thanks!