Finally!

[CCfive]

Have you tried educating her a little more? Maybe show her some literature or go online with her to assure her of their relatively small size and docile nature.
As stated above hiding things from your parents is not a good idea. You don't want to lose her trust, not when you'll be moving out soon leaving only more reasons to worry about you. Try to teach if not try to wait, the snakes, as cool as they are are not worth lying to your mother.

Hope you man up and make the right choice brother.

[iCandiBallPythons]

Seems like a domestic problem/situation and not really something random forum members can solve?

[Geek_Girl]

From the sound of it, you aren't ready to have any more pets. Take care of the ones you have and wait to get any more until you move out and can care for them properly. I understand the desire to have what you want "now" but growing up means learning patience and making responsible choices. Hiding it from your mom and putting the snakes in less than desirable conditions is not being responsible and is a really bad idea.

Though I have a feeling nothing we say is going to make a difference and you will do what you want anyways. We've all been young and impulsive at some point.

[CatandDiallo]

Sometimes we all don't end up with the best/most supportive parents. And yeah, sometimes they aren't the nicest people in the world. Regardless, they have raised you, cared for you and provided for you for your whole life.

Even though your mother seems to be a "tyrant", she deserves to say what comes and goes inside her own house. If she doesn't want you to have a snake, respect that choice and just wait for one short year to get as many snakes as you want.

[Jay_Bunny]

Lying and sneaking around to keep and hide something you have been told you can't have are not very good qualities for a future reptile breeder. It shows a complete lack of respect. It doesn't matter if you give her money and pay rent. She owns the house. She has set rules for you to follow. I find it very disrespectful for you to say "So yea she can shove it" when you speak about your mother. What are you, five?

Again, these are not good qualities and your dishonesty and lack of respect will not earn you many customers for your reptile breeding. I say wait the year, save up your money, and start your reptile breeding adventure in an honest manner.

[kevinb]

Well so all you know I was planning on taking the advice not to get them in the first few replies. As for the respect of my mother....if she showed me some then I Would return it but she doesn't even try. Every night its the same thing....I need $5,10,20,50. "Well What do you need it for?" "Your dad needs cigerettes" its never can I borrow and pay you back. Because j never get paid back. If I had all the money she said she Would pay me back I would be like bill gates. I just don't really repsect her anymore she causes all this drama and talks crap about my gf who has depression issues. She acts like she's two and gives me the silent treatment daily for stupid stuff like not wanting To pay for my dads addiction to cigerettes because I know he doesn't need them. I quit he can too. I just don't understand how she can treat me like crap in a daily basis and expect me to repsect her and help her out. Sure she raised me. But if I count the Times I had to bail her out with cash its like I'm raising a child myself. Sorry if this disrepects anyone but I speak my mind and I'm not going to hide how I feel about my home situation.

Kevin Bullis

[DemmBalls]

Seems like a domestic problem/situation and not really something random forum members can solve?

^^^This.

No animal deserves to be in the middle of a mess like this. Sorry.

[Kinra]

I doubt there are many people in the world who have perfect home situations, but that doesn't mean you should be hiding things. I had to wait 4 years to get my first snake because my landlord when I was in college wouldn't allow pets of any kind, including reptiles. I didn't hide them, even though it would have been easy to.

Also, while breeding snakes might seem like a good idea, have you thought everything through completely? What happens if you don't sell the babies? Can you care for all the babies for the long term? Have you thought about how much work everything will be?

One year won't make much of a difference. In face you could save up more in that time and buy older snakes so you wouldn't really be affected by waiting a year.

[CatandDiallo]

I agree with the above as well.

But, to clarify, in my last post I never said that SHE deserved respect from you. I said that her choice to not have these animals in her home should be respected. I'm sure if you had a child that wanted a pet that you didn't want, you'd want them to respect your decision of what goes on in your house, too.

[Jay_Bunny]

Well so all you know I was planning on taking the advice not to get them in the first few replies. As for the respect of my mother....if she showed me some then I Would return it but she doesn't even try. Every night its the same thing....I need $5,10,20,50. "Well What do you need it for?" "Your dad needs cigerettes" its never can I borrow and pay you back. Because j never get paid back. If I had all the money she said she Would pay me back I would be like bill gates. I just don't really repsect her anymore she causes all this drama and talks crap about my gf who has depression issues. She acts like she's two and gives me the silent treatment daily for stupid stuff like not wanting To pay for my dads addiction to cigerettes because I know he doesn't need them. I quit he can too. I just don't understand how she can treat me like crap in a daily basis and expect me to repsect her and help her out. Sure she raised me. But if I count the Times I had to bail her out with cash its like I'm raising a child myself. Sorry if this disrepects anyone but I speak my mind and I'm not going to hide how I feel about my home situation.

Kevin Bullis

I'll answer you in order of the bolded text.....

1) I had a rough relationship with my mother growing up. We fought constantly. And I'm not talking just verbally. We didn't trust each other. We didn't have much of a parent child relationship. I had that with my grandmother, who pretty much raised me from the time I was born. I used to spout off to my friends that if she'd show me some respect, I'd respect her. But it wasn't until I put on my big kid pants and started acting like an adult, that I began to get the respect I'd longed for from her. I made the decision to be the adult in the situation and you know what, my mother and I have a good relationship now. I love spending time with her. You just have to grow up a little.

2) Do you know how much money that woman put out to raise you? It costs a looooot of money to raise a kid. My husband and I are about to start a family and just looking at the costs of everything a baby would need, then school, extra=curricular activities, etc. That is a loooot of money. But you know what, she's expected to pay that money to raise you. That is her job. I understand it gets tough when your parents ask you for money. Heck, my mom asked me for $5000 to pay off a car loan. Never saw that money again. I let her borrow close to $1000 to pay her bills one month. Never saw that again. I've bought her food for her dogs even. And I used to complain about it. She's my mother. I figure she brought me into this world. Its the least I can do. And she hasn't borrowed from me again. In fact, she's done a lot recently to help me while my husband and I are trying for a family and getting our own place again. She's giving us furniture. She took us in for a few days while we were dealing with a horrible house guest. Have a sit down talk about your money concerns. Let her know that while you love helping her out, you do work hard (I assume you do anyway) for your money and would not like to spend it on things like cigarettes and such.

3) Addictions are hard to overcome. And its even harder for those who enable the addicted. My mother was an alcoholic and she was a big smoker. I can tell you it is very hard when someone you love asks you to go to the store for something they are addicted to. My mother recently went to the hospital for a problem the doctor says is possibly linked to her smoking habit. We were really scared for her. (I can't for the life of me remember what its called, but basically the doctor said it had something to do with the blood supply to her intestines) She was terrified. She quit smoking cold turkey and was doing really well. Then just last week I caught her smoking again. It is a battle and while you might think its stupid, for them it is a very real addiction that often enough, they just don't have the willpower to control.

4) While I am not a parent yet, understand that raising a child is more than just giving them money. Often enough I had to play mother to my younger sister. I had to be the mature one. I had to mother her and be there for her. Yes it sucks that your parents are being immature, but you are no better in the way you react to their behavior. It sounds like a house full of five year olds. Man up and be the adult here. Sit down with your parents and explain how you feel. They may not come around to seeing things your way yet. And no, you may not be able to get snakes until you are out on your own, and yes that sucks, but I'd work on repairing the relationship with your mother before worrying how many snakes you can fit under your bed. The relationship one has with their parents should be a wonderful one and I'm so glad I could repair the one I have with my mother. You should try. Even if it is just little things. Cook dinner for her. Offer to do some housework so she can relax. Sit down and have a chat. Let her know you want to have a good relationship with her and you are willing to put forth the effort.

Just my 2 cents.