Understanding the platty gene?

[Jason Bowden]

Still don't think you can compare them. None of the other BEL producing genes work the same way. There is no lesser mojave, etc...

Not gonna argue though. LOL I think your mind is made up.

You said in your first post that lessers don't carry the platty gene. I guess it's a little harder for me to grasp. I'll catch on though.

[aalomon]

Still don't think you can compare them. None of the other BEL producing genes work the same way.

Not gonna argue though. LOL I think your mind is made up.

You said in your fist post that lessers don't carry the platty gene.

How do they work differently? The only difference is a het platty isnt visual.

...and yes, lessers do not carry the platty gene or they would be a platty. However, you can get a platty from a platty (one lesser gene, one het platty gene) x lesser (one normal gene, one lesser gene) breeding.

Theoretically, from this pairing you could the following genetic combinations:
Baby 1 - 2 lesser genes - visual BEL
Baby 2 - 1 lesser gene, 1 het platty gene - visual Platty
Baby 3 - 1 lesser gene, 1 normal gene - visual Lesser
Baby 4 - 1 het platty gene, 1 normal gene - het platty that looks normal

Those are all the possibly babies you could get from a platty x lesser cross so its not surprising a platty popped out.

[dr del]

Huh?

Still don't think you can compare them. None of the other BEL producing genes work the same way. There is no lesser mojave, etc...Not gonna argue though. LOL I think your mind is made up.

You said in your first post that lessers don't carry the platty gene. I guess it's a little harder for me to grasp. I'll catch on though.

Yes there is.

It just looks like a BEL - when you breed one to a normal you get 50% lessers and 50% mojaves.


dr del

[Jason Bowden]

Huh?



Yes there is.

It just looks like a BEL - when you breed one to a normal you get 50% lessers and 50% mojaves.


dr del

Geeze Doc, wake up.

[abi21491]

Still don't think you can compare them. None of the other BEL producing genes work the same way. There is no lesser mojave, etc...

Not gonna argue though. LOL I think your mind is made up.

You said in your first post that lessers don't carry the platty gene. I guess it's a little harder for me to grasp. I'll catch on though.

That doesn't mean they aren't on the same locus They are on the same locus because a Platinum is a super, it can't produce normals. If it wasn't on the same locus, normals would be produced - kind of like when you breed a Bumblebee (Spider x Pastel) to a normal.. You'll get Spiders, Pastels, Bees and Normals. A Platinum x Normal will give Lessers and Het Plattys, like a Lesser x Mojo BEL will give all Lessers and Mojos. No normals but it also can't reproduce itself UNLESS the other parent provides one of the needed genes.

No, a Lesser can't carry the gene, but a Platinum does. It is a Lesser x Het Platinum. Aalomon's answer below breaks it down well

How do they work differently? The only difference is a het platty isnt visual.

...and yes, lessers do not carry the platty gene or they would be a platty. However, you can get a platty from a platty (one lesser gene, one het platty gene) x lesser (one normal gene, one lesser gene) breeding.

Theoretically, from this pairing you could the following genetic combinations:
Baby 1 - 2 lesser genes - visual BEL
Baby 2 - 1 lesser gene, 1 het platty gene - visual Platty
Baby 3 - 1 lesser gene, 1 normal gene - visual Lesser
Baby 4 - 1 het platty gene, 1 normal gene - het platty that looks normal

Those are all the possibly babies you could get from a platty x lesser cross so its not surprising a platty popped out.

Also wanted to point out that some of the other BEL linked genes don't make BELs when bred together:

Mojave x Mystic - Mystic Potion
Mojave x Special - Crystal

They are still super forms though because those genes are all sitting on the same locus.

[Jason Bowden]

How do they work differently? The only difference is a het platty isnt visual.

...and yes, lessers do not carry the platty gene or they would be a platty. However, you can get a platty from a platty (one lesser gene, one het platty gene) x lesser (one normal gene, one lesser gene) breeding.

Theoretically, from this pairing you could the following genetic combinations:
Baby 1 - 2 lesser genes - visual BEL
Baby 2 - 1 lesser gene, 1 het platty gene - visual Platty
Baby 3 - 1 lesser gene, 1 normal gene - visual Lesser
Baby 4 - 1 het platty gene, 1 normal gene - het platty that looks normal

Those are all the possibly babies you could get from a platty x lesser cross so its not surprising a platty popped out.

OK I'm at an understanding.
Thanks! A little different, but I got it now. A lesser het platty is a platty. I guess I had a brain fart. LOL
Thanks again for putting up with me.








Thanks!

[abi21491]

OK I'm at an understanding. A normal color phase animal can carry the platty gene, but a lesser cannot. Amazing to me! I wonder if other morphs can carry the platty gene?
Thanks! A little different, but I got it now. A lesser het platty is a platty. I guess I had a brain fart. LOL
Thanks again for putting up with me.

Thanks!

Exactly From what I've gathered any of the BEL genes (Mojave, Lesser, Butter, etc) mixed with the Het Daddy gene are visual but I'm guessing any morph that ISN'T a BEL gene would carry the Het Platty gene unnoticed, like a Normal does. It only appears to show itself within the BEL complex.

[Jason Bowden]

[QUOTE=abi21491;1595427]That doesn't mean they aren't on the same locus They are on the same locus because a Platinum is a super, it can't produce normals. If it wasn't on the same locus, normals would be produced - kind of like when you breed a Bumblebee (Spider x Pastel) to a normal.. You'll get Spiders, Pastels, Bees and Normals. A Platinum x Normal will give Lessers and Het Plattys, like a Lesser x Mojo BEL will give all Lessers and Mojos. No normals but it also can't reproduce itself UNLESS the other parent provides one of the needed genes.

No, a Lesser can't carry the gene, but a Platinum does. It is a Lesser x Het Platinum. Aalomon's answer below breaks it down well





Never heard of a locus.

Anyway, I wonder why a platty X normal breeding can't produce a platty. Or maybe you can.?

[aalomon]

Never heard of a locus.

Anyway, I wonder why a platty X normal breeding can't produce a platty. Or maybe you can.?

No, with a platty x normal all the babies would get one gene; either het platty or lesser. Its the same as breeding a BEL that has one lesser and one mojave gene to a normal. You would get all lessers and mojaves, but no normals or BELs.

[abi21491]

No, with a platty x normal all the babies would get one gene; either het platty or lesser. Its the same as breeding a BEL that has one lesser and one mojave gene to a normal. You would get all lessers and mojaves, but no normals or BELs.

Right Because the genes are on the same locus, 2 parts of a whole so to speak - and a parent can only give 1 gene to the offspring from each locus. Each animal has 2 genes, 1 from each parent So in the case of a Platinum it only passes one or the other, it can't pass both at the same time to the same baby. Same with a BEL, a Super Pastel, etc... any homozygous "super" form can't reproduce itself when bred to a normal.