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    I know you're anxious to see what you've got in the eggs but unless there is some indication that something is wrong (i.e. veins deteriorating and/or no movement when candling, fungal growth, no pipping days after siblings have pipped, etc.) I wouldn't cut. You said yourself that the little one is "lively" in the egg. That would indicate to me that it's healthy and should have no trouble pipping and emerging on its own. If it were me, I would let them all pip on their own. I'm one of those odd balls that consider pipping to be an important milestone that shouldn't be bypassed just because of impatience, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest View Post
    I know you're anxious to see what you've got in the eggs but unless there is some indication that something is wrong (i.e. veins deteriorating and/or no movement when candling, fungal growth, no pipping days after siblings have pipped, etc.) I wouldn't cut. You said yourself that the little one is "lively" in the egg. That would indicate to me that it's healthy and should have no trouble pipping and emerging on its own. If it were me, I would let them all pip on their own. I'm one of those odd balls that consider pipping to be an important milestone that shouldn't be bypassed just because of impatience, though.
    Because you and heather have helped me on so many of my posts
    I shall wait to pipp.
    I promise its not impatience that's making me want to cut.
    But this is true.
    Livelyness does indicate health.
    And true. Pipping in birds is essential as well because it means and makes the birds neck capable of something something... I don't remember.
    But I'm sure the same rule applies slihtly in BP's as well.
    Thanx! I'll post pics soon of the first little dudes to pipp... Hopefully soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyOhh View Post
    Yeah, if you don't know what you are doing, you CAN cut a vein and kill the baby.

    I really don't think its worth it unless you have someone there with you that knows what they are doing.
    from my understanding cutting any veins at that point is not going to kill the snake by any means. now cutting the animal yes, but a little blood in the amnionic fluid is nothing to worry about. cutting a vein would only create a bloody mess.

    correct me if I'm wrong though.


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    I definitely would not cut if your incubator fluctuated so much in temp. You really have no way of knowing how much longer they have before they are due to hatch. Also, you don't have to add water to the eggs after you cut them.
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    Re: How to care for eggs after you cut them

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by Xan Powers View Post
    from my understanding cutting any veins at that point is not going to kill the snake by any means. now cutting the animal yes, but a little blood in the amnionic fluid is nothing to worry about. cutting a vein would only create a bloody mess.

    correct me if I'm wrong though.


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    Cutting a small minor vein isn't generally a problem.

    Cutting the larger ones however certainly could be. Cutting more than one definately would be a bad idea.

    That blood is the animals blood - bigger veins take longer to close up and lose blood faster.

    They are small enough for blood loss to be a major problem if you just hack away at the egg without paying enough attention.

    I always candle the eggs first and draw the larger veins on the shell with a dull pencil or mark out an area with very few major veins so I can cut with a fair amount of reassurance. I still make a pigs ear of it but at least it is just ugly instead of dangerous.


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    Last edited by dr del; 07-01-2011 at 11:56 AM. Reason: spelled lose wrong :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,



    Cutting a small minor vein isn't generally a problem.

    Cutting the larger ones however certainly could be. Cutting more than one definately would be a bad idea.

    That blood is the animals blood - bigger veins take longer to close up and lose blood faster.

    They are small enough for blood loss to be a major problem if you just hack away at the egg without paying enough attention.

    I always candle the eggs first and draw the larger veins on the shell with a dull pencil or mark out an area with very few major veins so I can cut with a fair amount of reassurance. I still make a pigs ear of it but at least it is just ugly instead of dangerous.


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    Re: How to care for eggs after you cut them

    Quote Originally Posted by sookieball View Post
    Because you and heather have helped me on so many of my posts
    I shall wait to pipp.
    I promise its not impatience that's making me want to cut.
    But this is true.
    Livelyness does indicate health.
    And true. Pipping in birds is essential as well because it means and makes the birds neck capable of something something... I don't remember.
    But I'm sure the same rule applies slihtly in BP's as well.
    Thanx! I'll post pics soon of the first little dudes to pipp... Hopefully soon!

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    I'm looking forward to seeing what you get regardless of how it gets here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest View Post
    I'm looking forward to seeing what you get regardless of how it gets here.
    Don't worry ill be posting the video and pix as soon as I see the first one pipp!

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    1.0 Pastel (Syler)
    0.1 BumbleBee (Scully)
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    0.1 Mojave (Saffy)
    1.0 Albino (Leopold)
    1.0 Pinstripe (Triston)
    1.0 Basset/Beagle Mix (Bilbo)
    0.1 Basset Hound (Mimi)
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    and the oldest, male pit/mix Corky. 18yrs strong.

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