Interesting Twist on Toffee Project

[OhhWatALoser]

The problem we have now is that every one is putting in all of there "expert" opinions, or "facts" about a new development of a morph that quit frankly no one knows what is realy going on.
No one knows whats going on yet. So many people are saying this or that and its all conjecture. More breedings need to be done. Hatchlings need to grow into adults. Those adults need to be bred. Untill then all this crud about whats going on is unproven and as far as everyone else should be concerned unaccurate.
All of the "genetic" experts in the ball python world with there half accurate(false) knowledge of basic genetics saying whats going on with the whole Toffee project realy cracks me up. Most of these people don't even know how real codominant/dominant genes work or what they are.

Sit back and enjoy the ride. Get a het Toffee and try your own magic. After the breedings are done and we have passed a few years down the road then we may have a better understanding of whats Realy going on.




Also all this talk about Allels. There can be more than 2 Allels on a Loci. Food for thought. Some color genes have 3 or 4 Allels. Some Loci can affect other Loci. But oh yea this is "Ball Python" genetics. They work completely differently than every other living creature.

I wouldn't go knocking on anyone since you earlier in the other thread made a claim that it was possible for it to be compatible with both albino and lav albino......

codom and dom are just terms to describe observable traits, mendel's system, it has little to do with whats going on at a genetic level, you have alleles and loci, heterozygous and homozygous, doesn't get more simple than that and this is what we are talking about. The ball python world has changed mendels system but it still works and imo makes more sense for what we are dealing with, otherwise we would be calling most things co-dom.

there cannot be more than 2 alleles on a locus, when a baby is coming to be, you get 1 allele from a locus from mom and 1 allele form the same locus from dad. while some alleles can produce similar results (ex. the 3 lines of axanthic) they are on different loci. If you have an extra chromosome you can have 3 alleles but we know what problems that usually causes.

I would be hard pressed to call anything a "color gene" because a single allele can effect multiple traits. look at the spider. for all we know the pastel gene might cause other things to happen other than just color. We don't know.

no nothing is 100% set in stone here, but judging patterns and looking at statistics you can make some pretty safe assumptions that might as well be "fact" until proven otherwise. just like the leopard being a visual het pied