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    IBD is transferred by mites as well but I'd look to poisoning myself. So the first question are there any mites at all. Check the vent eyes and water dish for drown ones. I would not treat a snake possibly suffering from a toxicological response with more toxins. P-A-M is a toxin and although many use it safely on healthy snakes I'd avoid it in one possibly suffering from an over exposure of quite likely the same chemical, Permethrin, which is a very common pesticide so it is quite possibly the first choice if the snake has been poisoned. Poison seems to be the most likely choice given the information we have currently. Dr.J Rossi suggests using a mix of ivermectin and water at 1/2 to litre it is hard to mix so shaking is required spray on snake and inside and outside the cage it is also injectable but that is not as safe. Only treat for mites if there are mites.

    The msds sheet for P-A-M (aka, Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v)
    states the use of eye shields and neoprene gloves and impervious clothing is required during use.

    http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...7#Registration

    msds for Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v the parent product.

    http://hazard.com/msds/f2/bkl/bklmm.html

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    Re: What could it be???????????

    Quote Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    IBD is transferred by mites as well but I'd look to poisoning myself. So the first question are there any mites at all. Check the vent eyes and water dish for drown ones. I would not treat a snake possibly suffering from a toxicological response with more toxins. P-A-M is a toxin and although many use it safely on healthy snakes I'd avoid it in one possibly suffering from an over exposure of quite likely the same chemical, Permethrin, which is a very common pesticide so it is quite possibly the first choice if the snake has been poisoned. Poison seems to be the most likely choice given the information we have currently. Dr.J Rossi suggests using a mix of ivermectin and water at 1/2 to litre it is hard to mix so shaking is required spray on snake and inside and outside the cage it is also injectable but that is not as safe. Only treat for mites if there are mites.

    The msds sheet for P-A-M (aka, Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v)
    states the use of eye shields and neoprene gloves and impervious clothing is required during use.

    http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...7#Registration

    msds for Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v the parent product.

    http://hazard.com/msds/f2/bkl/bklmm.html
    so in other words dont use it..what i have done so far to her. is spray her with mite off then i soaked her the next day .gave her a baytro shot and another one will be given tomorrow.i tube fed her with calsium powder,baby food,pedialite,mixed with water.she showing a little bit more life in her.shes moving parts of her lower half from touch.she didnt do that when i got her.so ill keep doing what my buddy says to do. he had a spider that was worst then her and did the shots,tube feeding,etc.all i can do is hope she bites me and has a bowl movment.yes i said bites me.lol if she did that i know shes geting stronger.i put a small rat in her cage and she gets very alert but no strike.shes still weak.but every day seems to show a good sign.all i can do is pamper her and look after her and hope for the her to pull through.thanks tho for the info.

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