What could it be???????????

[Skiploder]

my friend breeder and his wife the vet came to my house and injected her with baytro/baytrill one of those words and tubed fed her with calcium,baby food,and water mixed shes on a liquid diet for a week and next shots are due in 3 days.he said theres a 50/50 chance she will make it but he said he had one of his spiders ball that was worst then her pull through doing the same method.she has a mite problem thats under control and will be geting a nice warm soaking and r-n-r tomorrow.im praying to the snake god she pulls through.ill keep you guys up to date on her.

Baytril is an antibiotic.

What type of infection do they think she has?

[FINGAZZ]

Hi,

I would also ask the shop that sold her to you if they had seen mites and treated her with anything.

What are you using to control the mites at the moment?


dr del

THATS FUNNY.i went to the shop to look at the other snake to see if they were showing signs like hers.when i look at there snakes they were covered i mean covered with mites and one had a resp problem so the had these snake in a 10gal tank in the same closed room and they said they are quarantined.i was like wow.i could actualy see mites on the floor and display cages.im useing mite off i used it in the past and took care the problem then.

[FINGAZZ]

Baytril is an antibiotic.

What type of infection do they think she has?

she showing early signs of Respiratory.no bubbles yet but a slight weez.

[dr del]

Hi,

I was actually asking as there have been a few similar reports from when people poisoned their snake with supposed mite treatments.

I haven't reallty heard any good reports about mite off's effectiveness long term either.

I would suggest getting a can of Provent-a-mite and following the instructions precisely. I might even say it could be a good idea to email the makers describing the symptoms of your snake and getting their opinion on applying mite treatment at this time.


dr del

[FINGAZZ]

Hi,

I was actually asking as there have been a few similar reports from when people poisoned their snake with supposed mite treatments.

I haven't reallty heard any good reports about mite off's effectiveness long term either.

I would suggest getting a can of Provent-a-mite and following the instructions precisely. I might even say it could be a good idea to email the makers describing the symptoms of your snake and getting their opinion on applying mite treatment at this time.


dr del

ill look into that. i used the mite off for over a yr now with no problems.befor i had my collection i had only one snake and she had mites due to te pet shop i got them from.since then i been breeding my own and havent had mites since treatment and breeding my own food.

[Evenstar]

I totally agree with dr del. Get Provent-a-Mite. It is the #1 best thing for mites hands down. Mites could be causing her neurological symptoms. Snakes that are infested can become anemic from blood loss (no kidding!) and anemia will cause weakness. I'm not saying this is definitely what's causing her problems, but it really could be.

You can get PAM directly from the manufacturer, Pro-Products. It isn't too expensive and well worth having it on-hand.

[FINGAZZ]

I totally agree with dr del. Get Provent-a-Mite. It is the #1 best thing for mites hands down. Mites could be causing her neurological symptoms. Snakes that are infested can become anemic from blood loss (no kidding!) and anemia will cause weakness. I'm not saying this is definitely what's causing her problems, but it really could be.

You can get PAM directly from the manufacturer, Pro-Products. It isn't too expensive and well worth having it on-hand.

ill deff pick some up.i think thats the problem with her just as you stated.hopfuly the baytro shots and tube feeding will keep her strong enough to fight of her sickness.so far she a fighter but who knows how long she been fighting before i got her.hope she doesnt give up.thanks tho...

[kitedemon]

IBD is transferred by mites as well but I'd look to poisoning myself. So the first question are there any mites at all. Check the vent eyes and water dish for drown ones. I would not treat a snake possibly suffering from a toxicological response with more toxins. P-A-M is a toxin and although many use it safely on healthy snakes I'd avoid it in one possibly suffering from an over exposure of quite likely the same chemical, Permethrin, which is a very common pesticide so it is quite possibly the first choice if the snake has been poisoned. Poison seems to be the most likely choice given the information we have currently. Dr.J Rossi suggests using a mix of ivermectin and water at 1/2 to litre it is hard to mix so shaking is required spray on snake and inside and outside the cage it is also injectable but that is not as safe. Only treat for mites if there are mites.

The msds sheet for P-A-M (aka, Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v)
states the use of eye shields and neoprene gloves and impervious clothing is required during use.

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...7#Registration

msds for Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v the parent product.

http://hazard.com/msds/f2/bkl/bklmm.html

[FINGAZZ]

IBD is transferred by mites as well but I'd look to poisoning myself. So the first question are there any mites at all. Check the vent eyes and water dish for drown ones. I would not treat a snake possibly suffering from a toxicological response with more toxins. P-A-M is a toxin and although many use it safely on healthy snakes I'd avoid it in one possibly suffering from an over exposure of quite likely the same chemical, Permethrin, which is a very common pesticide so it is quite possibly the first choice if the snake has been poisoned. Poison seems to be the most likely choice given the information we have currently. Dr.J Rossi suggests using a mix of ivermectin and water at 1/2 to litre it is hard to mix so shaking is required spray on snake and inside and outside the cage it is also injectable but that is not as safe. Only treat for mites if there are mites.

The msds sheet for P-A-M (aka, Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v)
states the use of eye shields and neoprene gloves and impervious clothing is required during use.

http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_...7#Registration

msds for Cic residual pressurized insecticide no. v the parent product.

http://hazard.com/msds/f2/bkl/bklmm.html

so in other words dont use it..what i have done so far to her. is spray her with mite off then i soaked her the next day .gave her a baytro shot and another one will be given tomorrow.i tube fed her with calsium powder,baby food,pedialite,mixed with water.she showing a little bit more life in her.shes moving parts of her lower half from touch.she didnt do that when i got her.so ill keep doing what my buddy says to do. he had a spider that was worst then her and did the shots,tube feeding,etc.all i can do is hope she bites me and has a bowl movment.yes i said bites me.lol if she did that i know shes geting stronger.i put a small rat in her cage and she gets very alert but no strike.shes still weak.but every day seems to show a good sign.all i can do is pamper her and look after her and hope for the her to pull through.thanks tho for the info.

[kitedemon]

Does she have mites at all? Any evidence ?


I'd avoid all chemicals unless there is a sign of mites. Normally a mite treatment isn't a problem but until you have tested the snake to be sure what is wrong I'd avoid all chemicals in case she has been poisoned it isn't an uncommon occurrence, people fail to read and follow the directions on all sort of chemicals (P-A-M being only one) and end up having all kinds of problems.

Mixing bleach with rust remover for example... that makes chlorine gas that was used as a chemical weapon in WW1. My brother works for poison control he see than exact one once a moth or more.