Quote Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
Kiln dried cedar?
Kiln dried pine is all I use now after changing from aspen and not one case of myco, EVER.
Kiln dried pine does not cause anything and cedar is something I would never put under my rats, just really bad advise....

Masking the ammonia with anything is not healthy for the rat, you may not be smelling it but the rats are still breathing it.
"Occasional small amounts of porphyrin are normal, but large, regular amounts indicate an underlying problem."

There is no way you can go 2-3 weeks with any type of bedding without having absolutely disgusting bedding the rats are laying on, that's just gross.

Your and idiot. People who put 4-5 rats in small tubs have nasty tubs. I house 2-3 at most adult rats in each tub. Rats are breathing ammonia even if there is no ammonia odor??? Idiot. My rats have never been more heathy since I changed to CEDAR. My rats are housed in an upstairs bedroom and you can not smell them anyhwere in the house. Idiots like you complain about KILN dried cedar because of oils which are burned of when its KILN dried. News flash idiot PINE also contains oils and you house your rats on it without question. But idiot the oils in pine are also burned off in the KILN dried process. Your cedar is bad aguement has no facts to back it up. You read it was bad some where and passed it on. Do you fresh kill your rats so they wont kill your snakes also, because i read somewhere to NEVER feed a BP a live rat...how stupid house them on whatever you want and keep complaining of how bad they smell. Mine smell great and are very heathy, so are all my BPs who eat them.