Difference between lesser platinum & butter

[OhhWatALoser]

However, you could consider them the same morph because they produce a blue eyed lucy, just a bit different.

It makes them part of the same complex, not the same morph. mojave sits on the same locus as lesser/butter/russo/ect. however butter and lesser look the same by themselves and in every combo produced so far.

[tikigator]

wow I learn something new everyday.....so I just bought a male butter that I am supposed to be getting in today. and I also just bought a female lesser that will be coming next week. but they are basically the same morph? so no point in breeding them together....and if I did they wouldn't be supers would they?

hmm...ok while we're on this topic can someone please give some examples of what you would cross with a butter/lesser? if you crossed a butter/lesser X spider what would you get?....a butter bee? and a butter/lesser X pinstripe? now that I have one of each....I'm not sure what to breed each of them with.

I live down the street from the Bells, didn't realize they produced the Butter, cool! Thanks for the input!

[dr del]

Hi,

It would definately be a super - a blue eyed leucistic. That is the result of mating most of the combinations of genes in the BEL complex - but they can all look slightly different. The super mojave has colour on its head for example

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/super-lesser/

And this is a butter x spider;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/butter-bee/

And this is a lesser bee - as you can see there is a lot of variation;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/lesser-bee/

And this is a butter x pinstripe;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...ter-pinstripe/

And I personally love these two;

http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/black-butter/

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_3953.jpg


dr del

[OhhWatALoser]

so no point in breeding them together....and if I did they wouldn't be supers would they?

Lesser/Lesser = BEL
Butter/Butter = BEL
Lesser/Butter = BEL

if you crossed a butter/lesser X spider what would you get?

Lesserbee or Butterbee, both also the same thing

butter/lesser X pinstripe?

Kingpin

[tikigator]

Hi,

It would definately be a super - a blue eyed leucistic. That is the result of mating most of the combinations of genes in the BEL complex - but they can all look slightly different. The super mojave has colour on its head for example


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y10...z/_MG_3953.jpg


dr del

Wow that website is awesome!! Thank you!! That last link of the group is unbelievable! I am excited that I have some female spiders and a pinstrip to breed with my male butter! And now that I have a female lesser I am try for a BEL! coooooool!!!!

Lesser/Lesser = BEL
Butter/Butter = BEL
Lesser/Butter = BEL


Lesserbee or Butterbee, both also the same thing


Kingpin

Great clarification, many thanks!

[creaturelover92]

Great thread

JK

[snakesRkewl]

hmm...ok while we're on this topic can someone please give some examples of what you would cross with a butter/lesser? if you crossed a butter/lesser X spider what would you get?....a butter bee? and a butter/lesser X pinstripe? now that I have one of each....I'm not sure what to breed each of them with.

Here's a couple examples.

Lesser X Butter ~ Notice how you can't tell them apart


Lesser X Bumblebee
(he pulls it off rather well I think)


Lesser X Yellowbelly


Lesser X Albino


There's lots of good choices to breed lessers and butters with

[King's Royal Pythons]

I don't mean to be argumentative, but the lesser is the darker one in this picture right?

Lesser X Butter ~ Notice how you can't tell them apart

[dr del]

Really?

Which one is this then?



Or this one?



No cheating.


dr del

[Clear]

Without cheating I would call that a lesser, because of the darkness around the top of the back. But butters and lessers are the same!