Quote Originally Posted by Luke Martin View Post
I don't get it...one post they're het reds until proven otherwise...now they're not and just genetic black backs? I've produced MANY black back cinnamons and combos that look almost identical to yours. I'm not saying the mom isnt' a genetic black back, she is a very nice example and it could be genetic, but I think you're getting ahead of yourself, then having to backpeddle when someone says its not what you think it is.
I'm not backpedaling anything. I know what I said. It's obviously genetic. My cinnamons do not produce blushed out and lavender tinted (at hatching) blackback cinnys. I'm sorry but I've never seen a cinnamon produced by anyone that looked like that and it was just a cinny.

When comparing to try to make a call on the GBB the female may be, she more closely resembles a het red than the others. I said she must be. Why am I repeating myself??

Then (for those who need an explanation for their holier than though ways) I thought about what I'd said and how I didn't consider the difference between the proven co-dom lines I'd listed (you know, the ones that have a super form) and the genetic BB's that are the dominant lines. Plus, again, like I said (this is getting tiring) I considered the cinny babies have no stripe. Gargoyles usually have a stripe.

The point is, that female proved beyond a shadow of a doubt to be genetic. I know this is a fact because I know what my cinnys would look like otherwise.

Does it really matter if I wanted to call them gargoyles the first day and then realize they are probably a dominant gene and not a co-dom gene? Personally, I'd rather them be dominant blackbacks. My blackback project is just that. I don't want a stripe in what I plan to produce.

So go find someone else to try to put down if it makes you feel better. It isn't going to work in this situation because I got exactly what I wanted out of that unproven female. Who (oh my god!) is not just a nice normal!