Quick, snake is spazzing out!

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Neither provent-a-mite, nor nix bedding spray,(same thing) should ever come in contact with the snake. If it's used on the bedding and enclosure, it must be used according to directions. Very lightly and allowed to completely dry and air out for awhile before the snake is put back in. The enclosure should be well ventilated during this process and it's not recommended to replace the water bowl for a couple days afterward to be sure the snake doesn't track any residue into it.

There are spray on mite treatments that are for topical use which are safe for the snake but PAM and NIX are never to be used on the animal in any concentration.

[dr del]

Hi,

IBD kills ball pythons really fast.

If you have had him for 2 months without adding any new snakes and you don't already have a boa in your collection he could have been infected by then it definately isn't IBD.

Because he would have been dead a month ago in all likelyhood.


dr del

[dr del]

Hi,

Provent-a-Mite and NIX are not the same thing.

With P-a-M you can put the snake and the waterbowl back in as soon as the residue is dry and the fumes have dissapated.

People keep saying they have the same ingredients - they don't. They use the same family of chemicals but that is a far different thing.

Read this post and it may clear some of the misconceptions up a little.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...hlight=provent


dr del

[Foschi Exotic Serpents]

Oh yes they are.. Permethrin .50%

I double checked both cans to be sure.

[dr del]

Hi,

Oh yes they are.. Permethrin .50%

I double checked both cans to be sure.

From the post I liked to;

"The word permethrin is a generic name of a group of pyrethroid chemical isomers. This is like saying everything with the word soap is the same thing. Put your wet hand into a box of powdered laundry detergent and see if it is the same as a bar of ivory, but they are both "soap".

dr del

[Miss Tuniwha]

maybe I did not see this.. but is this a normal ball python?? (stupid question I know, but it sounds similar to the spider issues)

another thought would be neurological issues? I had one that acted similarly due to extreme temperatures when shipped/mixed with dehydration (to the best of my knowledge)

any head trauma? radical temp changes etc???

[Highline Reptiles South]

sounds like he is flipping out due to mites and/or the nix directly to the body. Give me frequent warm baths for the next few days and get the PAM...i'm sure he will be fine..just need some time....

[ocean girl]

maybe I did not see this.. but is this a normal ball python?? (stupid question I know, but it sounds similar to the spider issues)

another thought would be neurological issues? I had one that acted similarly due to extreme temperatures when shipped/mixed with dehydration (to the best of my knowledge)

any head trauma? radical temp changes etc???

I try to keep the temps stable, but with only a dimmer switch, it will vary day and night, I have a thermastat coming in the mail.
The cold side varies between 80 and 84 at the highest and the hot side varies from 90 - 95 on a hot day and then it needs to be adjusted, but if it gets that hot, he just goes over to the cold side.
I noticed at night the hot pad can get cold when the room gets colder and can go as low as 85 or so, but thats not to bad.
There has been no head trama.

[ocean girl]

Neither provent-a-mite, nor nix bedding spray,(same thing) should ever come in contact with the snake. If it's used on the bedding and enclosure, it must be used according to directions. Very lightly and allowed to completely dry and air out for awhile before the snake is put back in. The enclosure should be well ventilated during this process and it's not recommended to replace the water bowl for a couple days afterward to be sure the snake doesn't track any residue into it.

There are spray on mite treatments that are for topical use which are safe for the snake but PAM and NIX are never to be used on the animal in any concentration.

You are correct about the Nix spray, it should never be sprayed on the animal.
But you can use Nix conditioner (Diluted) on the snake,in a spray bottle, as well as humans and babies. You can't use nix spray on humans either, I guess they are different.

[ocean girl]

Hi,

IBD kills ball pythons really fast.

If you have had him for 2 months without adding any new snakes and you don't already have a boa in your collection he could have been infected by then it definately isn't IBD.

Because he would have been dead a month ago in all likelyhood.


dr del

I don't know much about IBD, I just looked it up tonight, but I read they can have it for years before developing symptoms. Also they can catch it easily from other snakes or there mites.
He is from a pet store that had many snakes FULL of mites, I didn't know this at the time, but now I know because everyone of them were soaking in water bowls, they also had a very large snake that was sick with something, he looked horrible, poor thing.