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    Wow ! Very volatile subject !!

    Since I don't care about football one way or another (ducking the rotten eggs, lol) I can't really say I know enough about who to vote on what.

    However, when it comes to M. Vick, I would rather see him nowhere at all.
    I would like to say, this is my opinion only. I'm NOT judge or jury, and I don't proclaim to be. But I DO have the right to my OWN opinion.

    What he did was simply disgusting. To me, this makes him a disgusting human being, and pretty close to being worthless. Now, before you all throw me into the fire, remember, its just my opinion.
    I truly believe he is in no shape or form sorry for what he did to the dogs. I do believe he is sorry about getting caught and all the problems he got into over it.

    Sorry, you do now "grow" a conscience or empathy. Especially not over being "punished" for something. He tortured and killed SEVERAL times. That means, more then once. That there pretty much proves that he felt NOTHING for these animals, at least, nothing good. Don't tell me he does now. If he hadn't got caught, he would probably still be engaging in this travesty.

    On the whole point of "human vs animals" , "pets vs livestock" etc, I only have one thing to say. I do value human life over animals. Its because I am a mother, and everyone has one. I wouldn't want to look into a mothers eyes of the person I let drown over saving my dog. Again, that is just my opinion, and my view on this. I love all my animals dearly and I'm still grieving the loss of my dog from last year, he was as close to a soulmate as one could ask for. I'm grateful for the 10 years I had with him.
    They truly are the most loyal, honest and faithful of animals one can ask for.

    About the whole "livestock vs companion animals" thing. Sure, its not fair that cows get slaughtered , yet we cry out at dogs getting drowned. Sure, we have our rodents killed for the snakes (or let the snakes do it). But SURELY people understand that there is a difference, unfair or not. Most animals that have evolved along with the humans have played a role for us. Dogs were our companion, hunting partners, protectors and so much more. This country was built using horses one way or another, its part of our heritage. And yes, then there is the livestock, there to provide food and materials.

    I'm no vegetarian. But I do have empathy. I strongly wish there would be better regulations (and enforcement) of humane treatment at slaughter plants as well as on the transport. I wouldn't mind paying more for my meat, in order for that to happen.

    But sorry, no, I don't view my dog the same as the cow I may eat. I think that is basic human nature, and not necessarily "hypocrisy".

    Do I think rape or child molestation and murder is worse then what Vick did to the dogs ? Um, YEAH. But how does that even matter in this particular discussion? We aren't talking about a rapist or a murderer or any other of the countless trash walking the earth. Right at this point the talk is about Vick alone, and what he did, and what people think about it and whether they want to see his mug anywhere. And just because there may still be "worse" crimes, doesn't excuse his crime.

    So he did his time. Sorry, that doesn't change the fact of the pure nature of his crime. He may be legally free and excused but please do not expect people to do the same in their mind. What about child molesters that did their time ? So, they are out of jail and free, does that mean they should have a "clean slate" ? I guess there may be some that think so, but I would NEVER ever forgive them, or want them anywhere around my or other children. Period.

    Again, I'm no judge or jury or court, but in my opinion there are some crimes that are so heinous, and so devoid of anything that makes us human, that these persons are IN MY OPINION worthless. Someone that can actually torture and kill such innocent beings as pets or children, that just takes a whole nother level of evilness.

    Yes , there are many wrongs in this world, and yes, he did his time. But to me, he is overpaid trash. For all the reasons listed.

    I know I may get flamed and my words and meanings dissected and chewed up. But remember, I do not expect anyone to share my opinion, I do not push my opinion on anyone, I do not say its "gospel". All I ask that you respect my right to have one, as I respect others rights to have their own, even if it differs from mine.

    To anyone that actually read this long rant of mine, thank you , I know it was long winded and please remember that english is my second language, so excuse any spelling and grammar errors.
    Last edited by zina10; 04-19-2011 at 02:31 PM.
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