Yup, I've seen plenty of UGLY super pastels out there too.
Super pastel or regular, you just have to take your time picking out your breeding snakes, and take your time selecting holdbacks.
I've seen dozens and dozens of bumblebees [ Pastel Spiders ] most are nice, a few are ugly, but the one I remember I saw at a show back in December, She was solid yellow and white with pattern. Not a speck of cream, grey or tan on her. She was hands down the most incredible bee I've ever seen, and believe me if I'd had the $3K she'd have been mine.
It may take me another 5 years to find one like her, but I'm willing to wait.
On the other hand, I also saw a super pastel at that same show that was totally light brown, not a speck of yellow on it. Even though it was way below market value, it didn't sell all day, because it just wasn't a nice super.
Gale