double homozygus ressesive, How do most do it?

[koloo921]

I'm shooting for an Albino Pied! The route I choose was:

Albino 66% het for Pied

1.5 66% double hets

My girls are too young this year, but I have been trying to breed my Albino boy to a het pied girl. He does not show any interest yet

If I produce any pieds out of my Albino x het female, I will keep them. I will know that they are 100% het for Albino.

I'm sure that there are better ways to do it, but this was the most cost efficient route for me.

I always ask myself these 3 questions

1. How much $ you are willing to invest?
2. How patient you are?
3. How much do you like to gamble?

[mainbutter]

Well here's how we're doing a double homozygous:

We're shooting for Super pastel Hypos (granted, not double recessive, but still double homozygous).

We went ahead and purchased:
1) pastel hypo male
2) pastel het hypo female

This will improve our odds per egg (compared to a potential breeding of double hets) from 1/16 to 1/8. If we don't hit the super pastel hypo, we'll keep back a nice female if we get one, and keep trying.

By using a homozygous hypo male, we're guaranteed that any pastel or super pastel females we keep back will be at least het hypo, and will be worth pairing up in a few years to have more chances at the combo...if we have bad luck and don't hit it by then.

[RandyRemington]

I always ask myself these 3 questions

1. How much $ you are willing to invest?
2. How patient you are?
3. How much do you like to gamble?

And since I'm very low on question 1 it works out well that I'm high on 2 and 3.

I finally produced an albino female in 2009 after only a single decade of work and she was also 33% chance het stripe but since I still couldn't afford albinos I couldn't afford to keep her. Selling her was a real shame as I had a good feeling about her pattern. I did keep two of her possible double het sisters though.

[yardy]

I'm shooting for an Albino Pied! The route I choose was:

Albino 66% het for Pied

1.5 66% double hets

My girls are too young this year, but I have been trying to breed my Albino boy to a het pied girl. He does not show any interest yet

If I produce any pieds out of my Albino x het female, I will keep them. I will know that they are 100% het for Albino.

I'm sure that there are better ways to do it, but this was the most cost efficient route for me.

I always ask myself these 3 questions

1. How much $ you are willing to invest?
2. How patient you are?
3. How much do you like to gamble?

I appreciate the cost constraints and this could be a fun longshot project anyway but, until and unless you produce a pied you can't actually be certain that you have any male carrying pied genes. 5 x 66% double het girls gives you a reasonable chance with the females but I can't help thinking that it might have been worth your while investing in a male pied somewhere along the line, or better a female pied to go with the male albino 66% het pied tp produce your own double hets-at least you would know what the babies were then.

[koloo921]

I appreciate the cost constraints and this could be a fun longshot project anyway but, until and unless you produce a pied you can't actually be certain that you have any male carrying pied genes. 5 x 66% double het girls gives you a reasonable chance with the females but I can't help thinking that it might have been worth your while investing in a male pied somewhere along the line, or better a female pied to go with the male albino 66% het pied tp produce your own double hets-at least you would know what the babies were then.

I agree but
By the time my girls are of breeding age I should have some pieds I have lots of other projects going and this is just a small one.
In my collection I also have:
1. Pastel Het Pied
1. Het Pied
1.1 Pewter 66% het Pied
.7 Het Pied females (not including my possibles)

It was more cost effective for me to go with het females because I have other males to prove out. You can get 4-5 het female hatchlings for the price of a female pied. I also chose the Albino male because its a lot easier to pick out a het Pied in a 66% het clutch than an het Albino.

I'm hoping to prove the Albino male out this year with one of my het females

[muddoc]

I know the chanches are small I just didnt know if people do dh every time or try to prove out a homo A 66% b ect

It depends on how new the project is. I say that because the "homo A 66% b" animal you speak off came from a DH x DH pairing. If you are the first to try and make a double Homozygous Recessive animal, you wull be starting from scratch.

[Wh00h0069]

If I were going to invest in a double homo ressesive project, I would go with a visual het to a visual het. For example, an albino het pied to a pied het albino. Double hets, in my opinion, are not worth the time invested. The chances of producing a double homo from two double hets are extremly low, and all non-visuals will be poss het for both genes. Not worth it, IMO.

[OhhWatALoser]

If I were going to invest in a double homo ressesive project, I would go with a visual het to a visual het. For example, an albino het pied to a pied het albino. Double hets, in my opinion, are not worth the time invested. The chances of producing a double homo from two double hets are extremly low, and all non-visuals will be poss het for both genes. Not worth it, IMO.

yea but if your the first to try the combo, you really don't have much of a choice but to do dbl het x dbl het because the visual hets don't exist yet.

[JayCee]

Homo A Het B X Homo B Het A.

No one is selling Homo B Het A females that I've seen (I have seen an Albino Het Pied male for sale though). I figure there might be some for sale this summer but they will be pretty expensive.

I'm actually planning a different route, Super Pastel Pied male X Ghost Het Pied (or other recessive het pied, haven't decided yet). Hopefully by the time I can afford a Ghost Het Pied female and get her up to breeding size I will have already produced my own Super Pastel Pied male (have Pastel Het Pied male X Pied female going this year and kept a couple Pastel Het Pied females I produced last year so I have the makings).

Homo Pastel Pied X Ghost Het Pied = Pastel Pied het Ghost and Pastel DH

male Pastel Pied het Ghost back to mom (Ghost het Pied) = Pastel Pied Ghost