what can i buy with USD33,000?

[j_h_smith]

I think this situation is compounded by the cultural differences between countries. It's difficult to understand how a person from another country stands on animal (snake) right issues. I also believe that the OP use of the English lanuage is furthering some resentment. Lastly, I also believe that someone coming into this forum with such a grandiose scheme with what appears to be limited experience tends to throw a flag for most of us.

We have all seen this before and most of the time it's a scam or spam. so we throws up our defenses whenever we hear this kind of story.

If the OP is in fact real and has this kind of money to put out for these animals, we should help him. However, I know of very few breeders with the international shipping experience that can help this person.

Maybe some of the breeders that are more knowledgeable on these matters could jump in and give some insight.

Jim Smith

[psychophobia]

ok,1st i want to say sorry if i make some of you mad at me.but, i am not joking about what i said earlier just today i already set up my mind.i will spend money on something that i want.no more $33k or 7 burmese that i release to the wild or something like that.i will start again but in small,i already know how to handle bp n all about husbandry.i already ask many thing with my local vet,n i think i am ready to start.after long discussion with my friend,he suggest to me to start with bumblebee n black eye leucistic.so i just need 1 spider,1 pastel n 2 fire + 1 albino to pair with my normal.i already find a rack with ryan help(thank ryan).about the incubator,it too early i think to buy it now or i can learn how to make one myself.

but i still need ur help.if u know any breeder that give good price of the snake that i list below.please inform me.(i try to check the link that ryan give but some of them sell het or they dont have stock right now)

-albino(male)
-spider(male)
-pastel(female)
-fire(male n female)

[TheSnakeEye]

You do not need an albino to make a bumblebee or Black Eyed Leucistic... And If you had your heart set on a BEL, I'd buy 1 male Fire and 2-3 Fire Female.

[j_h_smith]

You do not need an albino to make a bumblebee or Black Eyed Leucistic... And If you had your heart set on a BEL, I'd buy 1 male Fire and 2-3 Fire Female.

Ge doesn't need to buy these, he's got USD$33,000. He should buy what he wants. No need in waiting for a 2nd and 3rd gen breeding program.

Jim Smith

[TheSnakeEye]

Well he said he wanted to start from the ground up.

[ryan427]

ok,1st i want to say sorry if i make some of you mad at me.but, i am not joking about what i said earlier just today i already set up my mind.i will spend money on something that i want.no more $33k or 7 burmese that i release to the wild or something like that.i will start again but in small,i already know how to handle bp n all about husbandry.i already ask many thing with my local vet,n i think i am ready to start.after long discussion with my friend,he suggest to me to start with bumblebee n black eye leucistic.so i just need 1 spider,1 pastel n 2 fire + 1 albino to pair with my normal.i already find a rack with ryan help(thank ryan).about the incubator,it too early i think to buy it now or i can learn how to make one myself.

but i still need ur help.if u know any breeder that give good price of the snake that i list below.please inform me.(i try to check the link that ryan give but some of them sell het or they dont have stock right now)

-albino(male)
-spider(male)
-pastel(female)
-fire(male n female)

did you ask yourself to who you are going to sell these snakes to in the future ? is there a large enough market out there where u are from to be able to make profit ? one thing is for sure is that nobody here is going to buy a bp from a breeder in asia having hundreds of breeders here .shipping cost would cost more that the snake its self .i can already tell you one thing and thats that i think the bp market over there is not enough for you to see profit .

[psychophobia]

i already mentioned earlier that the albino is to pair with my female normal.not for BEL or bumblebee.so i need to add 1 more female fire on my list.tq.

smith:i dont know if u hate me or not,but please dont start it over again,i just want the opinion from expert.maybe u r the greatest breeder in the world,but please give a new breeder a change to learn something new here n not said something like that.if u dont want to teach me or help me anything,that fine.maybe another breeder will help me.

[j_h_smith]

i already mentioned earlier that the albino is to pair with my female normal.not for BEL or bumblebee.so i need to add 1 more female fire on my list.tq.

smith:i dont know if u hate me or not,but please dont start it over again,i just want the opinion from expert.maybe u r the greatest breeder in the world,but please give a new breeder a change to learn something new here n not said something like that.if u dont want to teach me or help me anything,that fine.maybe another breeder will help me.

I'm just trying to figure you out. If you have USD$33,000 why would you want to start from the ground up? Too much time, too much to go wrong. Why not buy what you're interested in breeding and be done with it?

Jim Smith

[psychophobia]

did you ask yourself to who you are going to sell these snakes to in the future ? is there a large enough market out there where u are from to be able to make profit ? one thing is for sure is that nobody here is going to buy a bp from a breeder in asia having hundreds of breeders here .shipping cost would cost more that the snake its self .i can already tell you one thing and thats that i think the bp market over there is not enough for you to see profit .

i know about the market potential here.it not like other country,but it still active.but for limited morphs(cheap) like pastel,spider,albino n fire.not many seller in my country try to breed bp.they just buy from oversea n sale with higher price here.normal bp here is around $100.but when i see normal bp in constrictor unlimited,it just $25.another example,bumblebee is around $1300.i think it must be the reason why no one want to buy bp in asia.

[ryan427]

i know about the market potential here.it not like other country,but it still active.but for limited morphs(cheap) like pastel,spider,albino n fire.not many seller in my country try to breed bp.they just buy from oversea n sale with higher price here.normal bp here is around $100.but when i see normal bp in constrictor unlimited,it just $25.another example,bumblebee is around $1300.i think it must be the reason why no one want to buy bp in asia.

if i where u i would use 13000 and leave the rest in my pocket