Female SPIDER 100% Het Pied X Male Normal 100% Pied

[pamby13]

It seems to me that breeding a Spider Het Pied female to a Het Pied male is a terrible waste of the female.

You are taking a $1000 female and pairing her with a $50 male (actual prices may vary but you get the idea).

You can pick up a low white pied male for a decent price and then double your odds of a Pied & Spied and have a better chance of selling the non-pied offspring since you know they are 100% hets.

help me out ! find me a low white male

[LotsaBalls]

help me out ! find me a low white male

Or, sell me the female spider het pied and I'll buy a pied male for her.

PS what did you pay for them, if you dont mind me asking.

[pamby13]

Or, sell me the female spider het pied and I'll buy a pied male for her.

PS what did you pay for them, if you dont mind me asking.

under 500

[OhhWatALoser]

under 500

:o

edited- apparently the surprise smile isn't working

[Adam Chandler]

If you are looking for a Pied male to bred to you Spider het Pied female you could probably wait to buy the male until next year, as females usually take about a year longer to mature.
For Piebalds I'd recommend Carl Gilmore of Suffolk Selects http://suffolkselects.com/
He has a really nice line of Piebalds and his prices are always fair. Here is a pic of a Pied I bought from him last year:

He came from a 11 egg clutch that one of Pied girls laid

[ss10gotanks]

I have found a great website that helps with genetics questions concerning ball pythons. Its www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/ So you can put your genetic traits into the male and female side and it will not only show you the percentages but also a P table and even a pick sometimes when you click on the link. This site has helped me a lot with genetics. plus its kinda fun to mix random ones together and see what morph you get.

[pamby13]

I have found a great website that helps with genetics questions concerning ball pythons. Its www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/ So you can put your genetic traits into the male and female side and it will not only show you the percentages but also a P table and even a pick sometimes when you click on the link. This site has helped me a lot with genetics. plus its kinda fun to mix random ones together and see what morph you get.

OH I always use the genetics word... didnt really answer my question clear enough for me though this time

[pamby13]

If you are looking for a Pied male to bred to you Spider het Pied female you could probably wait to buy the male until next year, as females usually take about a year longer to mature.
For Piebalds I'd recommend Carl Gilmore of Suffolk Selects http://suffolkselects.com/
He has a really nice line of Piebalds and his prices are always fair. Here is a pic of a Pied I bought from him last year:

He came from a 11 egg clutch that one of Pied girls laid

he is beautiful! and also that is what i have decided to do thanks so much everyone! <3 i love this forum.

[JayCee]

I hope you trust the guy you got her from. Sometimes when a deal is too good too be true it is because it is too good to be true. That is the thing about het to het breeding. The only way to produce Pied is if you hit the 1 in 4. So if her first clutch doesn't have any pied in it, the seller can say "just bad luck", try again next season.

[pamby13]

I hope you trust the guy you got her from. Sometimes when a deal is too good too be true it is because it is too good to be true. That is the thing about het to het breeding. The only way to produce Pied is if you hit the 1 in 4. So if her first clutch doesn't have any pied in it, the seller can say "just bad luck", try again next season.

i hear ya. I trust the guy. He is selling her to me at a discounted price due to a wobble. He is selling her with her genetics paperwork and all. I know a couple people who have purchased from the guy and have heard nothing but positive comments I do intend to go the Pied route and just making a male purchase next year It cant come fast enough!!