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    Re: what medicine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viperidae View Post
    let me clarify this:
    we have taken the sanke to 2 vets, the first vet is really an ass, he gave us antibiotics with no use at all, file closed, so we went to another vet who is the only vet who can help us in town due to the medic technology and human resource, there are only 2 vets who knows how to treat reptiles, this time, he did a check up with the secretions, no reaction to VIRUS(my bad, i didn't clarify this), his theory is, if it is a bacterial infection, it should be cured before with the antibiotics given by the last vet, he thinks it is a virus, so he did the check up, the last result came up with a reaction on the fouth day finally, the that virus can be cured with only one kind of medicine, so we tried it but unfortuntly, the medicine give reacts with water and given a burn like heating(that's the reaction with saliva) in the esophagus, after a few days the burnt inside is treated, the latest news for today, secretions found still but way better

    So he identified it a potential virus - which one and what medication did he prescribe to treat it?

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    Very interseting case. Negative in bacterial infection. Positive in viral infection. And after drug administration, the issue is still the same. There's also a fact that test can sometime yield to false negative results or vice versa. Im also interested in knowing the medicine provided to your snake, specially in this case since it was later diagnosed as a viral infection. But what kind of viral infection? I have a few added questions though, how old is the snake? how long have you been keeping it and was it already showing the symptom when you acquired it?

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    Ok, this is horribly confusing. When a culture is done they also do a sensitivity and this will tell the vet what drugs the abnormal bacteria can be killed by.

    Viruses are not identified with a typical culture and furthermore can not be treated with antibiotics (antibacterial medications) they must be treated with antiviral medications, few of which are approved for veterinary use because they are typically not very effective for reptiles.

    It sounds as if your vet is thinking your snake may have ibd because it's not getting better however your snake would have died long before now if that were the case.

    If I where you I would have another culture and sensitivity done. Then make sure you follow the vets instructions and finish all of the medication making sure your snake gets the Meds at the same time daily with no skipping and make sure your husbandry is spot on.

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    Re: what medicine?

    Quote Originally Posted by ed4281 View Post

    It sounds as if your vet is thinking your snake may have ibd because it's not getting better however your snake would have died long before now if that were the case.

    Not necessarily.

    First, if my translator is working correctly, they never did a complete bacterial sensitivity panel. Oh, and the last vet prescribed an anti-viral drug............I'd love to know which one.

    Second, IBD can hang around for a long time. All this crap we hear about pythons succumbing quickly, is like most IBD information, mainly misinformation. IBD is famous (or is it infamous?) for presenting itself as a never-ending stream of untreatable sub-acute infections.

    Third, if you read through the OPs posts, he/she has already lost carpet pythons and had other health concerns pop up in his/her collection. We know nothing of the OP's husbandry practices or the conditions these animals are being kept in.

    We also have no idea what other symptoms these snakes are exhibiting. The only thing we know is that they have a mysterious drooling disease, which a couple of vets have thrown antibiotics at and which the last round of treatment didn't work because the mystery medicine (virus medication no less) burned the esophagus of the snake.

    To the OP - please tell us what virus the vet thinks your snake has and please let us know what anti-viral medication was prescribed.

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    my vet had told me that the result proved that it is a kind of FAKE Staphylococcus aureus which look alike but actually it's not Staphylococcus aureus, i'll try getting the name of the medicine later on

    the culture is testing for both bateria and virus, only FAKE Staphylococcus aureus react with it

    what are the symtoms of IBD??

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    Re: what medicine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Viperidae View Post
    my vet had told me that the result proved that it is a kind of FAKE Staphylococcus aureus which look alike but actually it's not Staphylococcus aureus, i'll try getting the name of the medicine later on

    the culture is testing for both bateria and virus, only FAKE Staphylococcus aureus react with it

    what are the symtoms of IBD??
    IBD symptoms can be major to minor. They can present as neurological or they can present as a myriad of sub clinical infections that arise from the compromising of the animal's immune system. These can range to chronic respiratory infections, etc.

    You lost a number of other animals to this disease - did you have any necropsies done?

    Therefore there are no definitive symptoms.
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