Bumblebee's are over-rated ?

[Subdriven]

I remember being VERY happy with the one that I bought from Greg Graziani for $25,000.00 back in 2005!

OMG!!! first.. 25k for a bumble bee.... second.. the price drop to now!!

But then again, Has that bee paid for it self yet? 5 years of breeding, 1-2 generations of females of breeding after that...

But on another note.. Most of the the prices people talk about seeing are from sites like this, fauna and kingsnake where people ( not saying all ) are trying to sell there cheaper snakes they bought cheaper. none talks about the prices on sites and shows where they see a really good example of a morph at a higher price. I'd rather have the better example!

[rdoyle]

I would like to see some bad exp of a bee.

[Sean : EbN]

OMG!!! first.. 25k for a bumble bee.... second.. the price drop to now!!

But then again, Has that bee paid for it self yet? 5 years of breeding, 1-2 generations of females of breeding after that...

But on another note.. Most of the the prices people talk about seeing are from sites like this, fauna and kingsnake where people ( not saying all ) are trying to sell there cheaper snakes they bought cheaper. none talks about the prices on sites and shows where they see a really good example of a morph at a higher price. I'd rather have the better example!

I'll be honest since I always support the profitability of this business... I can't tell you EXACTLY what we've done with the Bumblebee because there have been so many projects that have come off of it. I looked back and it seems that we were selling Bumblebees back in 2007 for an average price of $3000.00 each. By this figure we only need to sell about 8-10 of them to make the money back on the original male. I can't tell you how many I hatched that year but I'd guess it was somewhere between 15-20.

You win some you lose some... here is a brief list...

Albino : 3500
Piebald : 16000
Pinstripe : 25000
Spider : 18500
Mojave : 10000
Pewter : 25000
Super Pastel : 13500
Bumblebee : 25000
Spotnose : 25000

Ok... so that's $136,500.00 between 2001-2005

Now you can get that same group for $3600.00 in 2010 hatchlings.

Pretty scary?!? I still say NO since I am still running a successful operation today. The only loser was the Spotnose... the rest all produced great animals that sold well.

The figures that I wish I knew... Just how many customers bought some of this nice stuff from us and remained in the hobby to this day? How many of them made a business out of it?

In this business... patience isn't a virtue... its a DAMN NECESSITY!

[Freakie_frog]

The figures that I wish I knew... Just how many customers bought some of this nice stuff from us and remained in the hobby to this day? How many of them made a business out of it?

In this business... patience isn't a virtue... its a DAMN NECESSITY!

At least one

I'm like Sean now I didn't pay near what he did but when I bought my group from him in 2006 I thought prices were reasonable for what I was getting I mean look how different these things looked for normals. I can tell ya it hurts my feelings to hear people say 200.00 is to much for a spider or 150.00 for a pastel is outrageous and don't even get me started on mojo's and lessers..You can buy a BEL for less than what one Mojo female cost in 06..

The pay off is in the long run I'd gladly pay more for a better example of a morph because in the long run I want to be producing quality..

Just my two cents

[Subdriven]

The pay off is in the long run I'd gladly pay more for a better example of a morph because in the long run I want to be producing quality..

Just my two cents

That is a comment that most people will not understand. Some jsut want the morph to have it, doesn't matter how good of example it is.

The quality will do the long run and keep people coming back!

[dembonez]

i disagree a bumble-bee is my absoloute favorite morph! beats all the rest and i think when they get darker as adults it suits them better imo they look more mature =P

*im weird i know!