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    Chlorhexidine!
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    Re: Is there anyway to disinfect a reptile cage without moving the cage?

    The thing is, how much of a disinfection do you want to do?

    Chlorhexidine is good stuff, but it doesnt kill hardly anything.

    I like the F10 and Trifectant because it kills the really nasty stuff

    Not even the more expensive Nolvasan aka Chlorhexidine Diacetate will kill the ever popular Pseudomonas infections which are a typical bacteria found in Respiratory Infections.

    Long story short, Chlorhexidine Gluconate, the cheaper stuff, will work in between your heavy cleanings, but for my own piece of mind, Id use something tougher every once in a while.

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    Re: Is there anyway to disinfect a reptile cage without moving the cage?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    The thing is, how much of a disinfection do you want to do?

    Chlorhexidine is good stuff, but it doesnt kill hardly anything.

    I like the F10 and Trifectant because it kills the really nasty stuff

    Not even the more expensive Nolvasan aka Chlorhexidine Diacetate will kill the ever popular Pseudomonas infections which are a typical bacteria found in Respiratory Infections.

    Long story short, Chlorhexidine Gluconate, the cheaper stuff, will work in between your heavy cleanings, but for my own piece of mind, Id use something tougher every once in a while.
    Weird...I've been using it for years with no issues....everything I've read and heard seems to jive with what's posted here: http://www.edmontonreptiles.com/foru...ad.php?t=18489

    Do you have any links that contradict that info? I've searched and haven't been able to find much info...or at least info I could understand...

    This seems to be the general consensus..."Chlorhexidine Gluconate, exceptionally persistent and broad spectrum antimicrobial properties have led to its recognition as the most effective agent available for surgical scrubbing, hand washing, patient pre-op prepping and skin wound cleansing." Seems like it would clean a tub fairly well...?
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    That's mighty expensive for it. I get it for 13 bucks a gallon.

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    I just use white vinegar

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    Re: Is there anyway to disinfect a reptile cage without moving the cage?

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    I just use white vinegar
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    Re: Is there anyway to disinfect a reptile cage without moving the cage?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    The thing is, how much of a disinfection do you want to do?

    Chlorhexidine is good stuff, but it doesnt kill hardly anything.

    I like the F10 and Trifectant because it kills the really nasty stuff

    Not even the more expensive Nolvasan aka Chlorhexidine Diacetate will kill the ever popular Pseudomonas infections which are a typical bacteria found in Respiratory Infections.

    Long story short, Chlorhexidine Gluconate, the cheaper stuff, will work in between your heavy cleanings, but for my own piece of mind, Id use something tougher every once in a while.
    Sorry for the small bit of a hijack here...

    Can you give me a reference to this? I can't find anything that supports your statement. I am well aware of the importance of the CHGs concentration but my understanding is that even at lower concentrations it was effective against a grab bag of nasties (why it is use in many hospitals as a surgical scrub)

    I can find lots of references where it is used in products but little when used on its own.

    I would be very very interested in your information sources. (chem geek sorry)

    Here is things I am finding...
    http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...95670195901523
    that is at 4% which is hard to get and makes it wicked expensive... 70$ a gal.

    http://www.ecolabhealthcare.com/docs/Endure_400_PSD.pdf
    This is actually the soap I use. during my monthly cleaning again 4%

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15655906
    This is a Japanese study that is at very low % but the time is a big factor.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8486975
    another Japanese study about developing resistance to CHG which seems low.

    This is far from solid support but it leads me to feel that CHG is actually fairly good but that is an assumption based on incomplete information I am not arguing with you at all, I just don't have enough information to make any kind of informed statement, I hope you can pass along a reference so I can read more on the matter.

    Alex

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    TheWinWizard that is a canadian price it is a controlled product here so you can't just buy it off the shelf it needs to come from lab supplies or medical supplies and you need to be from an institution to buy from them. Exclusive is the only place in the country that I have found where you can just buy it. I think they are a dealer for a vet supply line. That is why it is so much here and if you order it from the USA it can get seised.

    OhhWatALoser vinegar isn't that bad it works but it is slow it needs some time 10 min of contact to do a lot but it is fairly effective and works well against salmonella. If the surface can be heated it is even better. I use it in water dishes sometimes.

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    You can find Chlorhexidine for as low as $9-13 per gallon on amazon.com
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